[s-cars] Worthy projects (was Alum..was UrS $)

W.G. Giles sportquattros1 at mac.com
Tue Apr 24 08:15:00 EDT 2007


I do not own one right now but I do not remember the tires rubbing on  
any of the 16 cars we had at the introduction I would tell your  
friend to go to another dealer and or call Volvo customer service for  
further assistance.  As for engine sound it has the same sound as a  
Audi I-5 Turbo with a moded exhaust in stock form just not as loud.   
It certainly sounds better then my S6 did in stock form.  I have  
heard one with a moded exhaust and it sounds just like a moded S4-S6.
W.G.

On Apr 23, 2007, at 11:58 PM, JR wrote:

> It's all good.  I can over look little things, but that would  
> irritate the heck out of me every time I had to u-turn.  Personally  
> if I'm going to spend that much on a car I'd want to be able to u- 
> turn and park easily.  What is the reasoning behind making it that  
> way anyway?  It's not all bad though.  The car does haul when you  
> get on the gas.  I love the way the car looks too.  My friend's is  
> the gray exterior with the orange baseball glove colored leather  
> interior and blue gauges.  It is gorgeous.  Nice polished rims and  
> huge brake rotors peeking through them.  Other than the turning  
> radius it's also too low for my taste.  He can't go into any ANY  
> parking lot or driveway without scraping.  Also do your tires rub  
> in the wheel wells when you turn the wheel all the way right or  
> left?  His does and the dealer told him it's normal.  I searched  
> the web and found one other account of the same thing happening on  
> a non modified S60R.  I find it hard to believe that it was  
> designed to do that.  My last gripe with the car is that the engine  
> note has no soul.  I can live with that though.  :-P
>
> JR
>
>
> W.G. Giles wrote:
>> JR  I think you can not smell the sarcasm!  I also think that if  
>> the turning radius is the only thing that keeps you from owning a  
>> car you are very short sighted.  I have many miles in this car,  
>> Street, track, and auto x style tracks and did not feel the  
>> turning radius was bad.  I test cars and launch cars for a living  
>> and do know that there is more to driving then going fast,  I can  
>> find fault and good with any car out there I just chose to focus  
>> on the positive over the negative.  I am still convinced that it  
>> is the best modern interpretation  of the 92-95 S4-S6 out there.    
>> I am sorry if I have ruffled any feather out there but it is how I  
>> feel.
>> W.G.
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2007, at 7:36 PM, JR wrote:
>>
>>> I can't figure out how you can go so fast that you never have to  
>>> make u-turns.  That doesn't make sense.  Yeah suburbans turn  
>>> tighter than semis, but that doesn't mean suburbans have a good  
>>> turning radius does it?  By that rationale the S60R should come  
>>> with free suburban rental vouchers for life so when you get fed  
>>> up with it you can rent one to forget that your car can't turn  
>>> around any better than a 747.  U-turning is a fact of life  
>>> sometimes.  He cares about the turning radius because it's  
>>> embarrassing to have to hold up traffic to turn, backup, turn  
>>> some more and then go or end up driving on the curb during a u- 
>>> turn.  He also has to be selective about parking because the  
>>> lousy turning radius makes it hard to park.  This is a daily  
>>> driver, not a track car.  Is it too much to ask that the car be  
>>> able to make a reasonable u-turn or park normally?  He doesn't  
>>> track the car, but if he did I'd have to wonder how it would do  
>>> around a hairpin turn.  It's that bad.  There's more to driving a  
>>> car than mashing your right foot down.
>>>
>>> Don't take my word for it.  Google "s60r consumer reviews" or  
>>> "s60r turning radius" and see what other owners say.
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> W.G. Giles wrote:
>>>> The Volvo S60R is a great car I know because I worked the US  
>>>> launch  back a few years ago and I would buy one to replace my  
>>>> S6 if I had  to.  Who cares about the turning radius as you will  
>>>> be going to fast  to do a U turn anyway.  If you rent a suburban  
>>>> a couple of times a  year you will think the S60R has a great  
>>>> turning radius.  I am  working with BMW right now launching the  
>>>> new X5 (Great for a SAV),  and have driven the 335i  TT and it  
>>>> is very cool.  As time goes on it  will be a real good tuner,  
>>>> just not AWD yet.
>>>> W.G.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2007, at 2:20 PM, pkrasusky at ups.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Welllllllllllllll...  trying to think what I've got up me  
>>>>> grubby  little
>>>>> sleeve here.  Likely the F430BF1 at some point as my (now  
>>>>> former)  client
>>>>> keeps threatening to let me at it.  Then the 997GT3RS come August.
>>>>> Otherwise, it's whatever spontaneously happens to erupt - never  
>>>>> know.
>>>>> Maybe a hybrid Camry, some Hyundai, Kia, Accord, Corolla - not.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is known is it'll be JNR - that much is a given.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do look forward to an S60R outing at some point.  Gots to  
>>>>> happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad you enjoy my dribble Scott!  I seem to be finding less and  
>>>>> less
>>>>> time these days to have at it, but do what I can 8-).  I try to  
>>>>> break
>>>>> things up over @ AW D2 forum, but most goes right over basically
>>>>> everyone's heads there.  Nothing like you guys here certainly!
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be a stranger around here now...
>>>>>
>>>>> -Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   _____
>>>>>
>>>>>     From: QSHIPQ at aol.com [mailto:QSHIPQ at aol.com]
>>>>>     Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:16 AM
>>>>>     To: Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK); s-car-list at audifans.com
>>>>>     Cc: scarsgo at gmail.com
>>>>>     Subject: Re: Worthy projects (was Alum..was UrS $)
>>>>>                 Keep it up Paulie!
>>>>>     Do know too, that my S2 Rally driver really wants to put an  
>>>>> S40
>>>>> rally car together.  I have contacted Haldex directly, and they  
>>>>> can
>>>>> program that goofy hydraulic thing to be whatever we want.  It  
>>>>> can be
>>>>> done in any of them now, and I hear the new saab will have  
>>>>> this  ability
>>>>> as well (thru Rod Haney no less!).  The days of torsen haven't  
>>>>> been
>>>>> ditched either, Toyota has put a *locking* torsen in the center  
>>>>> of the
>>>>> 4runner for a couple years.  A much better approach IMO, than  
>>>>> the wide
>>>>> TBR Stasis offers.
>>>>>         Don't let the NAC scare you off sire, sharing of the  
>>>>> ride, in
>>>>> all those JNR (tm PK) terms, convey a sense of fun *and* a  
>>>>> baseline
>>>>> understanding of performance that frankly, only masochistic  
>>>>> flogs of
>>>>> Miss Piggy can deliver.
>>>>>         I enyoy great stories and of great rides Paulie.   
>>>>> Sharing them
>>>>> is what it's all about IMO.  I thank you for your commitment in  
>>>>> doing
>>>>> so, and know from my 'Top Ten' (tm - SJ), that writing them  
>>>>> takes time
>>>>> and effort.  Worthy of read my friend, I hope you have started  
>>>>> a  trend.
>>>>> Sticking around for you?  Ok I lied, but I promise to read  
>>>>> your  next JNR
>>>>> column of insanity!
>>>>>         SJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       _____
>>>>>
>>>>>     See what's free at AOL.com
>>>>> <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .
>>>>>
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