[s-cars] power steering trouble

Wed Aug 22 22:24:42 EDT 2007

OK... I can't really buy that argument.? A transmission is literally NO different.? It is a hydraulically powered piece of equipment operated by a pump producing high pressures, and converting those pressures into mechanical energy.? No pump dust involved.

I'd like something more specific.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com>
To: djdawson2 at aol.com
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: [s-cars] power steering trouble

What gives is its an entirely different system. It's not just power steering, but also power brakes, and was designed to use mineral hydraulic oil to properly lube all of the close tolerance bits and pieces. I've never personally seen ATF destroy anything, and I've seen more then a few Audis using it, but I do not doubt that it is not lubricating the pump properly and slowly wearing it into dust.?
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-Cody Forbes?
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'87 5ktq - Fast.?
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djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:?
> Interesting... because ATF is what the early Audis used for steering?
> fluid.? What gives??
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> Dave?
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> -----Original Message-----?
> From: Peter Golledge <petergolledge at gmail.com>?
> To: 'brian hoeft' <qweblog at gmail.com>; djdawson2 at aol.com?
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com?
> Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 6:00 pm?
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] power steering trouble?
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> Ummm ATF kills Hydraulic systems.... I'd flush it ASAP. I see many,?
> many?
> Audis at the boneyards in CO which are there only because ATF killed?
> the?
> Rack/Pump/Hoses.?
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> John Deere/CAT dealers have Mineral Hyd oil FYI.?
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> -----Original Message-----?
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com?
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of brian hoeft?
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:31 PM?
> To: djdawson2 at aol.com?
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com?
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] power steering trouble?
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> it must be the season for hydraulic component issues.?
>?
> youre the third or fourth lister ive seen mentioning troubles in a?
> couple?
> weeks.?
>?
> i myself just got back from a cross country trip and sprung a?
> hydraulik leak?
> and not only couldnt find pentosin in Missouri and Kansas but was?
> leaking?
> too much to pay $15 a quart.?
>?
> sooo, i bought a $9 gallon of ATF that proved just fine and has?
> lasted a few?
> thousand miles with a quart or so left.?
>?
> but,, shame on me for dripping a gallon of ATF across middle America..?
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> On 8/22/07, djdawson2 at aol.com <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:?
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>>?
>> 1) Impact driver works best.??
>> http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/toolcatalog.jsp?cattype=T&cat=2208&p?
>> age=3&#28982?
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>> 2) Blau sells the plug and o-ring kit?
>>?
>> 3) Don't run it low on fluid?
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>> 4) 3 and 4 are closely related.? If you ignore #3 now, you'll be?
>> asking yourself another question similar to #4 very soon.?
>>?
>> Dave?
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>> -----Original Message-----?
>> From: Mike Fitton <rfitton at vt.edu>?
>> To: s-car <s-car-list at audifans.com>?
>> Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 3:40 pm?
>> Subject: [s-cars] power steering trouble?
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>> ...otherwise known as: Help me not pay $360 for a seven-cent o-ring.?
>>?
>> So my power steering system has been slowing leaking fluid for?
>> several months now. It wasn't fast enough to worry about it until?
>> last?
>> weekend. I was kind of afraid it was the rack, so I kind of did the?
>> head in the sand bit for a while. Finally it started coming out fast?
>> enough to take a look. Rack's fine. It's coming out of that goofy?
>> plug on top of the pump. You know, the one that looks like a giant?
>> phillips-head. So I used my biggest flat-head and got it off?
>> relatively easily (the first time). Found an o-ring underneath that?
>> has clearly failed. But I didn't have a new o-ring for it and I'm?
>> fresh out of CHF-11S, so I stick it back on. Then I remembered that?
>> there's a 24-hour Advance not far from here, so I decided to take the?
>> o-ring with me over there to get a new one.?
>>?
>> But now I can't get the plug out. I didn't think I put it in that?
>> tight, but it isn't budging. After about an hour of messing with it,?
>> the plug itself isn't looking too healthy. I've used that?
>> screwdriver and a couple of other things. Even ground down a chisel?
>> to a flat?
>> tip, but everything just skips out of the head. I needed the car the?
>> next day, so I put some RTV around the edge hoping it would hold?
>> fluid. The RTV held at first, but now it's leaking again and not?
>> slowly. So I'm in desperate need of a new o-ring and preferably a?
>> new plug to stick in there.?
>>?
>> So my first question: anyone have any clever ideas how to get that?
>> little guy out??
>>?
>> Second question: can I get just a new plug from somewhere? There's a?
>> check valve under the plug that sits against it just so, so I can't?
>> just stick a random bolt in it. ETKA doesn't appear to list a?
>> separate p/n for it, so officially the only way to get a new plug is?
>> with?
> a new pump.?
>>?
>> Third question: if I run out of p/s fluid for a few days before new?
>> fluid arrives in the mail, will it damage anything? The pump isn't?
>> such a big deal, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let a bad o-ring?
>> on the front of the engine destroy the rack on the firewall.?
>>?
>> Fourth question: why didn't I just look at it three months ago, like?
>> an intelligent and well-adjusted guy would have done??
>>?
>> -Cheers!?
>> Mike?
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