[s-cars] power steering trouble

Thu Aug 23 10:19:07 EDT 2007

I'll bite on #1... but no way on #2.  ATF is one of the most highly developed fluids in industry... designed specifically to handle heat and pressure, while providing lubrication and minimal breakdown.

It seems to me that the downside of ATF is what it does to our Audi seals.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Sylvester <mike at urq20v.com>
To: brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com>
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com; djdawson2 at aol.com <djdawson2 at aol.com>
Sent: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 7:09 am
Subject: RE: [s-cars] power steering trouble

ATF has 2 problems in this system.

1) It will swell the seals.  That is why your leak has reduced.  Eventually it will destroy them.

2) The ATF isn't meant for the heat and pressure.  The fluid will break down and not provide adequate lubrication.

$15 a quart is cheap compared to using ATF.

Mike

www.urq20v.com

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [s-cars] power steering trouble
From: "brian hoeft" <qweblog at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, August 22, 2007 7:30 pm
To: "djdawson2 at aol.com" <djdawson2 at aol.com>
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com

it must be the season for hydraulic component issues.

youre the third or fourth lister ive seen mentioning troubles in a couple
weeks.

i myself just got back from a cross country trip and sprung a hydraulik leak
and not only couldnt find pentosin in Missouri and Kansas but was leaking
too much to pay $15 a quart.

sooo, i bought a $9 gallon of ATF that proved just fine and has lasted a few
thousand miles with a quart or so left.

but,, shame on me for dripping a gallon of ATF across middle America..

On 8/22/07, djdawson2 at aol.com <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> 1) Impact driver works best.?
> http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/toolcatalog.jsp?cattype=T&cat=2208&page=3&#28982
>
> 2) Blau sells the plug and o-ring kit
>
> 3) Don't run it low on fluid
>
> 4) 3 and 4 are closely related.? If you ignore #3 now, you'll be asking
> yourself another question similar to #4 very soon.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Fitton <rfitton at vt.edu>
> To: s-car <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 3:40 pm
> Subject: [s-cars] power steering trouble
>
>
>
>
> ...otherwise known as: Help me not pay $360 for a seven-cent o-ring.
>
> So my power steering system has been slowing leaking fluid for several
> months now. It wasn't fast enough to worry about it until last
> weekend. I was kind of afraid it was the rack, so I kind of did the
> head in the sand bit for a while. Finally it started coming out fast
> enough to take a look. Rack's fine. It's coming out of that goofy plug
> on top of the pump. You know, the one that looks like a giant
> phillips-head. So I used my biggest flat-head and got it off relatively
> easily (the first time). Found an o-ring underneath that has clearly
> failed. But I didn't have a new o-ring for it and I'm fresh out of
> CHF-11S, so I stick it back on. Then I remembered that there's a
> 24-hour Advance not far from here, so I decided to take the o-ring with
> me over there to get a new one.
>
> But now I can't get the plug out. I didn't think I put it in that
> tight, but it isn't budging. After about an hour of messing with it,
> the plug itself isn't looking too healthy. I've used that screwdriver
> and a couple of other things. Even ground down a chisel to a flat tip,
> but everything just skips out of the head. I needed the car the next
> day, so I put some RTV around the edge hoping it would hold fluid. The
> RTV held at first, but now it's leaking again and not slowly. So I'm in
> desperate need of a new o-ring and preferably a new plug to stick in
> there.
>
> So my first question: anyone have any clever ideas how to get that
> little guy out?
>
> Second question: can I get just a new plug from somewhere? There's a
> check valve under the plug that sits against it just so, so I can't just
> stick a random bolt in it. ETKA doesn't appear to list a separate p/n
> for it, so officially the only way to get a new plug is with a new pump.
>
> Third question: if I run out of p/s fluid for a few days before new
> fluid arrives in the mail, will it damage anything? The pump isn't such
> a big deal, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let a bad o-ring on the
> front of the engine destroy the rack on the firewall.
>
> Fourth question: why didn't I just look at it three months ago, like an
> intelligent and well-adjusted guy would have done?
>
> -Cheers!
> Mike
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