[s-cars] Audi S5
Ez Veedub
ezveedub at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 2 09:28:42 EST 2007
What are you saying, NO an Audi V8 engine 4.2 is not the same as an RS4. Can
you take the Audi V8 4.2 engine parts and put them in an RS4, no.
But I bet you didn't know I can install RS4 cams, pistons and injectors,
hell even the inake will fit into an A8 or Q7 FSI 4.2 did you, reason why,
its the same motor base.
Ezveedub
>From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>To: "Ez Veedub" <ezveedub at hotmail.com>
>CC: Jeff.Postupack at analog.com, s-car-list at audifans.com
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Audi S5
>Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:07:17 -0500
>
>You're calling every engine with the same block as the same engine, that's
>my contention.
>
>The Audi V-8 from 1990 has the same block as the RS4. What's your point?
>They're nowhere
>near the same engine.
>
>A Silverado 4.8 and the Corvette LS-7 have the same block (OK, one is iron
>and one alloy).
>They're nowhere near the same engine.
>
>Taka
>
>
>On 3/2/07, Ez Veedub <ezveedub at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Uh, what same comparison can be said about a 4.8L V8 and a 7.0L V8 from
>>GM.
>>
>>What I'm comparing was the 4.2 L V8 Audi FSI engine-chain drive motor. Its
>>used in Q7, A8, RS4 and R8 and soon to be S5. Its the same base engine,
>>but
>>certain parts are different. Basically same block, and I mean same BLOCK.
>>
>>I don't think the 4.8 and 7.0 GM V8 has same parts factor here.
>>Ezveedub
>>
>>
>> >From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>> >To: "Ez Veedub" <ezveedub at hotmail.com>
>> >CC: Jeff.Postupack at analog.com, s-car-list at audifans.com
>> >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Audi S5
>> >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:36:16 -0500
>> >
>> >Yeah, and my example of the Silverado 4.8 and Corvette LS-7 is along the
>> >same
>> >lines- I guess you see those engines as being the same, as they are both
>> >SBCs.
>> >
>> >Taka
>> >
>> >On 3/1/07, Ez Veedub <ezveedub at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Oh, I beleive the TT225 and the 180Hp beetle engine are basically the
>> >>same.
>> >>Differences in software, injectors and a turbo/manifolds set them
>>apart.
>> >>Same crank, same block, same rods, same valves, same cams. Only the
>> >>pistons
>> >>are different.
>> >>
>> >>And yes the motors are different from the A8, RS4 and R8. They are
>>tuned
>> >>differently for each chassis. But look at the data. They are all
>>4.2chain
>> >>drive motors, with FSI. Both the RS4 and R8 have high RPM tuned motors
>>and
>> >>put out the same HP, the R8 has trumpted intake runners and dry sump
>>while
>> >>and the RS4 has dual path. If they wanted, they could drop that motor
>>into
>> >>an A8 and everything would fit, basically the same base engine block
>>and
>> >>head design. The A8, Q7 and S5 will most likely have the same HP tuned
>> >>4.2@
>> >>350, while the RS4 and R8 are the high RPM tuned 420 Hp motors. All
>>based
>> >>off the same 4.2 FSI chain drive engine design.
>> >>EZ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>> >> >To: "Ez Veedub" <ezveedub at hotmail.com>
>> >> >CC: Jeff.Postupack at analog.com, s-car-list at audifans.com
>> >> >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Audi S5
>> >> >Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:32:17 -0500
>> >> >
>> >> >You're making a rather inaccurate statement:
>> >> >
>> >> >That's like saying the 4.8L engine in the Silverado is the same
>>engine
>> >>as
>> >> >the
>> >> >LS-7 in the Corvette Z-06. Basically the same engine, different
>>tuning.
>> >> >
>> >> >The A8 engine is most definitely different than the RS4 or R8 engine.
>> >> >Different
>> >> >cams, cylinder heads, valves, software, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> >Don't tell me that the 1.8T in the Beetle Turbo and TT225 engines are
>> >>the
>> >> >same as well.
>> >> >
>> >> >Taka
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On 3/1/07, Ez Veedub <ezveedub at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Basically same same motors, different tuning. Q7 & A8 have same FSI
>> >>motor.
>> >> >>RS4 has higher output tuning. R8 takes it to higher tuning with a
>>dry
>> >>sump
>> >> >>oil system. S5 will most likely have same FSI motor also, but until
>>I
>> >>have
>> >> >>it in my driveway, I can't say.
>> >> >>Ezveedub
>> >> >>
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