[s-cars] Q7 ramblings

Fri Mar 2 12:27:30 EST 2007

Like I said, I've worked on them, and if you think a Lexus is cheap, you're 
in for a big surprise.

>From: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>
>To: "Ez Veedub" <ezveedub at hotmail.com>,<t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>CC: 
><DGraber460 at aol.com>,<quattro at audifans.com>,<s-car-list at www.audifans.com>
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:17:42 -0500
>
>They have all the same issues?
>
>C'mon, be real. They have no soul or character like an Audi, but they run
>rings around Audi for reliability and repair costs.
>
>B
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ez Veedub" <ezveedub at hotmail.com>
>To: <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>Cc: <DGraber460 at aol.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>;
><s-car-list at www.audifans.com>
>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>
>
> > Ha, I guess you must work for them. I used to. Don't believe all the 
>hype.
> > They all have same issues bud.
> > Wasn't this a audi/qauttro/s-car forum??
> >
> >
> > >From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > >To: "Ez Veedub" <ezveedub at hotmail.com>
> > >CC: DGraber460 at aol.com, quattro at audifans.com, 
>s-car-list at www.audifans.com
> > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
> > >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:16:15 -0500
> > >
> > >So what if Lexus doesn't sell well in Europe?
> > >
> > >We're talking about the US market, that's what we've been talking about
>the
> > >whole time,
> > >along with the reliability and control interfaces of these cars.
> > >
> > >You're taking potshots at Lexus now because you don't have a leg to 
>stand
> > >on
> > >in that
> > >argument.
> > >
> > >We're not talking about how boring the cars may be to drive
> > >
> > >On 3/2/07, Ez Veedub <ezveedub at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Things have changed for Lexus, they are now ranked 5th in 07 by 
>Consumer
> > >>Reports. They were 1st in 06. And MB in at the bottom at 36. Audi is
> > >>ranked
> > >>12th just to let you know. And yes, Lexus sells car very well in the 
>US,
> > >>and
> > >>ONLY the US. LEXUS (Luxury EXport US)
> > >>Ezveedub
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > >> >To: " DGraber460 at aol.com" <DGraber460 at aol.com>
> > >> >CC: quattro at audifans.com, s-car-list at www.audifans.com
> > >> >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
> > >> >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:47:48 -0500
> > >> >
> > >> >Except that Lexus does better than MBZ, BMW and Audi and they don't
>use
> > >>a
> > >> >stupid
> > >> >MMI/iDrive/COMAND system. They are probably the best at gauging the 
>US
> > >> >market
> > >> >anyway.
> > >> >
> > >> >I think all of this crap that the Germans are foisting on us is
> > >>eventually
> > >> >going to bite them
> > >> >in the butt. Give me the RS5 Clubsport edition- no MMI, manual
>heat/air,
> > >> >manual transmission,
> > >> >manual seats, no sunroof, no back seat, ceramic brakes, aluminum/CF
> > >>body.
> > >> >:-)
> > >> >
> > >> >BTW, I saw a recent R-M Auction that brought much more reasonable
> > >>prices-
> > >>I
> > >> >think the
> > >> >Barrett-Jackson bubble is going to burst (which is a good thing, as 
>a
> > >>$35k
> > >> >'69 Z-28 is a
> > >> >much better proposition than a $110k car at B-J).
> > >> >
> > >> >Taka
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >On 3/2/07, DGraber460 at aol.com <DGraber460 at aol.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > One thing we must remember is that these engineering designs and
> > >> >decisions
> > >> > > are NOT based on the desires of loyalists such as this group. 
>They
> > >>are
> > >>
> > >> > > driven
> > >> > > by  marketing research data. If the "Premium brand" marques are
> > >>moving
> > >> >in
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > given  direction and sales do not drop (and the press praises 
>it),
>it
> > >> >will
> > >> > > flourish. It is cutting edge. It is market positioning and image.
> > >> > > In  building and
> > >> > > selling high end cars there are 3 critically important  factors:
> > >> > > Image.
> > >> > > Image.
> > >> > > Image.
> > >> > > Long term you have to deliver the goods. But _today_ you must
>impress
> > >> >and
> > >> > > dazzle with "new" and bragging rights type "stuff", even if that 
>is
> > >>more
> > >> > > complicated and detrimentally complex.
> > >> > > The "Bangle Butt", I-Drive, and Barrett-Jackson prove that the
> > >> > > buying  public
> > >> > > can be an illogical, image driven, herd of sheep.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I am sort of old school, and love a dash full of switches and 
>dials
> > >>and
> > >> > > gauges.
> > >> > > Let me control everything and give me a bank of toggle switches
>and
> > >>I'm
> > >> >a
> > >> > > happy camper.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Dennis
> > >> > > No longer the  target market!
> > >> > > Denver
> > >> > >
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