[s-cars] Q7 ramblings

Sun Mar 4 01:32:03 EST 2007

It was about the last year of the 280Z, right before they switched to the
300Z...let's say 1982 or 1983.  I was just starting to get interested in
cars that weren't matchbox cars :)  It was one of many examples, in my
opinion, of how consumer reports doesn't know their butt from a hole in the
ground about cars.
--Calvin

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Pizzimenti [mailto:joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 8:08 AM
To: calvinlc at earthlink.net
Cc: Ez Veedub; t44tqtro at gmail.com; DGraber460 at aol.com;
quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at www.audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings

What year did they rate the 280Z & how old was the car at the time?

On 3/3/07, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >Things have changed for Lexus, they are now ranked 5th in 07 by Consumer
> Reports
>
> Remember, consumer reports is the same magazine that brought us the
> "Excellent" ratings for Datsun 280Z brakes and body....hmmm how many rust
> free 280Z's have you ever seen outside of a hermetically sealed chamber?
> Any magazine that thinks that either has idiots working for them or they
are
> on the take.  On top of that there is an issue with some new Sony LCD TVs
> that hundreds of people have written to them complaining about and they
> won't change their rating.  Hmmmmm....I wonder why?
>
> --Calvin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Ez Veedub
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:06 AM
> To: t44tqtro at gmail.com; DGraber460 at aol.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at www.audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>
>
> Things have changed for Lexus, they are now ranked 5th in 07 by Consumer
> Reports. They were 1st in 06. And MB in at the bottom at 36. Audi is
ranked
> 12th just to let you know. And yes, Lexus sells car very well in the US,
and
> ONLY the US. LEXUS (Luxury EXport US)
> Ezveedub
>
>
> >From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> >To: "DGraber460 at aol.com" <DGraber460 at aol.com>
> >CC: quattro at audifans.com, s-car-list at www.audifans.com
> >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
> >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:47:48 -0500
> >
> >Except that Lexus does better than MBZ, BMW and Audi and they don't use a
> >stupid
> >MMI/iDrive/COMAND system. They are probably the best at gauging the US
> >market
> >anyway.
> >
> >I think all of this crap that the Germans are foisting on us is
eventually
> >going to bite them
> >in the butt. Give me the RS5 Clubsport edition- no MMI, manual heat/air,
> >manual transmission,
> >manual seats, no sunroof, no back seat, ceramic brakes, aluminum/CF body.
> >:-)
> >
> >BTW, I saw a recent R-M Auction that brought much more reasonable prices-
I
> >think the
> >Barrett-Jackson bubble is going to burst (which is a good thing, as a
$35k
> >'69 Z-28 is a
> >much better proposition than a $110k car at B-J).
> >
> >Taka
> >
> >
> >On 3/2/07, DGraber460 at aol.com <DGraber460 at aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > One thing we must remember is that these engineering designs and
> >decisions
> > > are NOT based on the desires of loyalists such as this group. They are
> > > driven
> > > by  marketing research data. If the "Premium brand" marques are moving
> >in
> > > a
> > > given  direction and sales do not drop (and the press praises it), it
> >will
> > > flourish. It is cutting edge. It is market positioning and image.
> > > In  building and
> > > selling high end cars there are 3 critically important  factors:
> > > Image.
> > > Image.
> > > Image.
> > > Long term you have to deliver the goods. But _today_ you must impress
> >and
> > > dazzle with "new" and bragging rights type "stuff", even if that is
more
> > > complicated and detrimentally complex.
> > > The "Bangle Butt", I-Drive, and Barrett-Jackson prove that the
> > > buying  public
> > > can be an illogical, image driven, herd of sheep.
> > >
> > > I am sort of old school, and love a dash full of switches and dials
and
> > > gauges.
> > > Let me control everything and give me a bank of toggle switches  and
I'm
> >a
> > > happy camper.
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > > No longer the  target market!
> > > Denver
> > >
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