[s-cars] Q7 ramblings

Mark Strangways StrangConst at rogers.com
Sun Mar 4 10:17:41 EST 2007


Audis :-)

Mark
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Pizzimenti" <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
To: <calvinlc at earthlink.net>
Cc: <DGraber460 at aol.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>; 
<s-car-list at www.audifans.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings


> What cars from that era did't rust?
>
> Joe, playing Devil's Advocate, Pizzo
>
> On 3/4/07, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> It was about the last year of the 280Z, right before they switched to the
>> 300Z...let's say 1982 or 1983.  I was just starting to get interested in
>> cars that weren't matchbox cars :)  It was one of many examples, in my
>> opinion, of how consumer reports doesn't know their butt from a hole in 
>> the
>> ground about cars.
>> --Calvin
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Pizzimenti [mailto:joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 8:08 AM
>> To: calvinlc at earthlink.net
>> Cc: Ez Veedub; t44tqtro at gmail.com; DGraber460 at aol.com;
>> quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at www.audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>>
>>
>> What year did they rate the 280Z & how old was the car at the time?
>>
>> On 3/3/07, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > >Things have changed for Lexus, they are now ranked 5th in 07 by 
>> > >Consumer
>> > Reports
>> >
>> > Remember, consumer reports is the same magazine that brought us the
>> > "Excellent" ratings for Datsun 280Z brakes and body....hmmm how many 
>> > rust
>> > free 280Z's have you ever seen outside of a hermetically sealed 
>> > chamber?
>> > Any magazine that thinks that either has idiots working for them or 
>> > they
>> are
>> > on the take.  On top of that there is an issue with some new Sony LCD 
>> > TVs
>> > that hundreds of people have written to them complaining about and they
>> > won't change their rating.  Hmmmmm....I wonder why?
>> >
>> > --Calvin
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>> > [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Ez Veedub
>> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:06 AM
>> > To: t44tqtro at gmail.com; DGraber460 at aol.com
>> > Cc: quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at www.audifans.com
>> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>> >
>> >
>> > Things have changed for Lexus, they are now ranked 5th in 07 by 
>> > Consumer
>> > Reports. They were 1st in 06. And MB in at the bottom at 36. Audi is
>> ranked
>> > 12th just to let you know. And yes, Lexus sells car very well in the 
>> > US,
>> and
>> > ONLY the US. LEXUS (Luxury EXport US)
>> > Ezveedub
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>> > >To: "DGraber460 at aol.com" <DGraber460 at aol.com>
>> > >CC: quattro at audifans.com, s-car-list at www.audifans.com
>> > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>> > >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:47:48 -0500
>> > >
>> > >Except that Lexus does better than MBZ, BMW and Audi and they don't 
>> > >use a
>> > >stupid
>> > >MMI/iDrive/COMAND system. They are probably the best at gauging the US
>> > >market
>> > >anyway.
>> > >
>> > >I think all of this crap that the Germans are foisting on us is
>> eventually
>> > >going to bite them
>> > >in the butt. Give me the RS5 Clubsport edition- no MMI, manual 
>> > >heat/air,
>> > >manual transmission,
>> > >manual seats, no sunroof, no back seat, ceramic brakes, aluminum/CF 
>> > >body.
>> > >:-)
>> > >
>> > >BTW, I saw a recent R-M Auction that brought much more reasonable 
>> > >prices-
>> I
>> > >think the
>> > >Barrett-Jackson bubble is going to burst (which is a good thing, as a
>> $35k
>> > >'69 Z-28 is a
>> > >much better proposition than a $110k car at B-J).
>> > >
>> > >Taka
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On 3/2/07, DGraber460 at aol.com <DGraber460 at aol.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > One thing we must remember is that these engineering designs and
>> > >decisions
>> > > > are NOT based on the desires of loyalists such as this group. They 
>> > > > are
>> > > > driven
>> > > > by  marketing research data. If the "Premium brand" marques are 
>> > > > moving
>> > >in
>> > > > a
>> > > > given  direction and sales do not drop (and the press praises it), 
>> > > > it
>> > >will
>> > > > flourish. It is cutting edge. It is market positioning and image.
>> > > > In  building and
>> > > > selling high end cars there are 3 critically important  factors:
>> > > > Image.
>> > > > Image.
>> > > > Image.
>> > > > Long term you have to deliver the goods. But _today_ you must 
>> > > > impress
>> > >and
>> > > > dazzle with "new" and bragging rights type "stuff", even if that is
>> more
>> > > > complicated and detrimentally complex.
>> > > > The "Bangle Butt", I-Drive, and Barrett-Jackson prove that the
>> > > > buying  public
>> > > > can be an illogical, image driven, herd of sheep.
>> > > >
>> > > > I am sort of old school, and love a dash full of switches and dials
>> and
>> > > > gauges.
>> > > > Let me control everything and give me a bank of toggle switches 
>> > > > and
>> I'm
>> > >a
>> > > > happy camper.
>> > > >
>> > > > Dennis
>> > > > No longer the  target market!
>> > > > Denver
>> > > >
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