[s-cars] Q7 ramblings

Sun Mar 4 18:20:30 EST 2007

Actually, in Florida where I lived at the time, most of the early 80's
Ford's did not, neither did the 3rd gen Slomaros and Firebirds, at least not
as rapidly as the 280z.
--Calvin

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Pizzimenti [mailto:joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 6:31 AM
To: calvinlc at earthlink.net
Cc: Ez Veedub; t44tqtro at gmail.com; DGraber460 at aol.com;
quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at www.audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings

What cars from that era did't rust?

Joe, playing Devil's Advocate, Pizzo

On 3/4/07, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
> It was about the last year of the 280Z, right before they switched to the
> 300Z...let's say 1982 or 1983.  I was just starting to get interested in
> cars that weren't matchbox cars :)  It was one of many examples, in my
> opinion, of how consumer reports doesn't know their butt from a hole in
the
> ground about cars.
> --Calvin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Pizzimenti [mailto:joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 8:08 AM
> To: calvinlc at earthlink.net
> Cc: Ez Veedub; t44tqtro at gmail.com; DGraber460 at aol.com;
> quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at www.audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>
>
> What year did they rate the 280Z & how old was the car at the time?
>
> On 3/3/07, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >Things have changed for Lexus, they are now ranked 5th in 07 by
Consumer
> > Reports
> >
> > Remember, consumer reports is the same magazine that brought us the
> > "Excellent" ratings for Datsun 280Z brakes and body....hmmm how many
rust
> > free 280Z's have you ever seen outside of a hermetically sealed chamber?
> > Any magazine that thinks that either has idiots working for them or they
> are
> > on the take.  On top of that there is an issue with some new Sony LCD
TVs
> > that hundreds of people have written to them complaining about and they
> > won't change their rating.  Hmmmmm....I wonder why?
> >
> > --Calvin
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> > [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Ez Veedub
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:06 AM
> > To: t44tqtro at gmail.com; DGraber460 at aol.com
> > Cc: quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at www.audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
> >
> >
> > Things have changed for Lexus, they are now ranked 5th in 07 by Consumer
> > Reports. They were 1st in 06. And MB in at the bottom at 36. Audi is
> ranked
> > 12th just to let you know. And yes, Lexus sells car very well in the US,
> and
> > ONLY the US. LEXUS (Luxury EXport US)
> > Ezveedub
> >
> >
> > >From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > >To: "DGraber460 at aol.com" <DGraber460 at aol.com>
> > >CC: quattro at audifans.com, s-car-list at www.audifans.com
> > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
> > >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:47:48 -0500
> > >
> > >Except that Lexus does better than MBZ, BMW and Audi and they don't use
a
> > >stupid
> > >MMI/iDrive/COMAND system. They are probably the best at gauging the US
> > >market
> > >anyway.
> > >
> > >I think all of this crap that the Germans are foisting on us is
> eventually
> > >going to bite them
> > >in the butt. Give me the RS5 Clubsport edition- no MMI, manual
heat/air,
> > >manual transmission,
> > >manual seats, no sunroof, no back seat, ceramic brakes, aluminum/CF
body.
> > >:-)
> > >
> > >BTW, I saw a recent R-M Auction that brought much more reasonable
prices-
> I
> > >think the
> > >Barrett-Jackson bubble is going to burst (which is a good thing, as a
> $35k
> > >'69 Z-28 is a
> > >much better proposition than a $110k car at B-J).
> > >
> > >Taka
> > >
> > >
> > >On 3/2/07, DGraber460 at aol.com <DGraber460 at aol.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One thing we must remember is that these engineering designs and
> > >decisions
> > > > are NOT based on the desires of loyalists such as this group. They
are
> > > > driven
> > > > by  marketing research data. If the "Premium brand" marques are
moving
> > >in
> > > > a
> > > > given  direction and sales do not drop (and the press praises it),
it
> > >will
> > > > flourish. It is cutting edge. It is market positioning and image.
> > > > In  building and
> > > > selling high end cars there are 3 critically important  factors:
> > > > Image.
> > > > Image.
> > > > Image.
> > > > Long term you have to deliver the goods. But _today_ you must
impress
> > >and
> > > > dazzle with "new" and bragging rights type "stuff", even if that is
> more
> > > > complicated and detrimentally complex.
> > > > The "Bangle Butt", I-Drive, and Barrett-Jackson prove that the
> > > > buying  public
> > > > can be an illogical, image driven, herd of sheep.
> > > >
> > > > I am sort of old school, and love a dash full of switches and dials
> and
> > > > gauges.
> > > > Let me control everything and give me a bank of toggle switches  and
> I'm
> > >a
> > > > happy camper.
> > > >
> > > > Dennis
> > > > No longer the  target market!
> > > > Denver
> > > >
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