[s-cars] what shocks? and where to get?

[Mike Fitton]

Related to an ongoing discussion I'm having with a friend...  Do spring 
rates change over time?  What if they're off the car?  If I take an 
automotive-grade spring out of a brand new car, measure the rate, put it 
on the floor with an 800 lb mass on it, come back in ten years, measure 
the rate again, will it be the same?  What if I cycle that 800 lb mass 
up and down for 30 minutes, twice a day, five days a week?

Which is another way of saying...is a 15-year-old spring a bad idea?  Or 
is paying Europrice $550ish for a set of S6+ springs any less of a bad idea?

-Cheers!
Mike

Vincent Frégeac wrote:
> I got mine on Audifans for 200$ the set. There is a set coming for sell once
> in a while. Or you can simply try junk yards:
> - Force 5 is specialized in Audis: www.force5auto.com
> - or you can try the junk yards database: http://car-part.com/
>
> HTH
>
>
>
> Vincent
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] De la part de Paul DAnneo
> Envoyé : 28 mars 2007 17:50
> À : hoog23 at aol.com
> Cc : S-CAR-List
> Objet : Re: [s-cars] what shocks? and where to get?
>
> All this talk about ride has me wanting to get the '92 springs...
>    
>   OK then, where to get 'em?
>    
>   Call the stealer, only 2 rears left in the US.
>    
>   All aftermarkets have Eibach, H&R etc...
>    
>   Thanks,
>    
>   Paul
>
> hoog23 at aol.com wrote:
>   I was going to upgrade from my original '95 springs/shocks (new oem ones
> in front) to '92 springs and boge turbo gas. I thought others were happy
> with this combo?
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tedebearp at yahoo.com
> To: t44tqtro at gmail.com; larrycleung at gmail.com
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Sent: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] what shocks?
>
>
> so what's the hot ticket for a '92 S4 with '92 springs? this car
> is a daily driver and i have no plans to take it to the track. right
> now, it's still rocking the original boge shocks with 145k miles on them.
>
> i don't want the ride to get much stiffer than stock, but better control
> would be nice. i notice the car tends to float over high speed bumps.
>
> -teddy
>
> --- Taka Mizutani wrote:
>
>   
>> If your Boges are underdamped, then Bilsteins most definitely are not.
>>
>> IMO, Bilsteins are a better match for the Audi than Koni.
>>
>> BTW, the Bilstein/Eibach combo is probably the sweetest setup for the UrS
>> in terms of ride comfort- I think the springs and the shocks are nearly a
>> perfect
>> match.
>>
>> Are you experiencing a small impact harshness or an inability to absorb
>>     
> big
>   
>> impacts,
>> or both?
>>
>> Small impact harshness that occurs all the time is usually a sign of the
>> shocks actually
>> being overdamped in compression damping.
>>
>> The other thing is that the Boges are a OEM replacement type shock- not
>>     
> the
>   
>> best in terms
>> of low stiction. I would think that a better quality shock would improve
>> things.
>>
>> Do you have the spring rates of the '92 springs? If so, order the
>>     
> Bilsteins,
>   
>> have them sent directly
>> to Bilstein's service department and have them custom valved to match your
>> springs- that would
>> be optimal.
>>
>> Taka
>>
>> On 3/28/07, LL - NY wrote:
>>     
>>> This sounds like an underdamped system. Bilsteins should be a decent
>>> match.
>>> If you're uncertain, you may find Koni Adjustables worth working with.
>>> Both
>>> have lifetime guarantees, although generally speaking, Bilstein are
>>>       
> better
>   
>>> built. And the reality, the "adjustability" of Koni's was more intended
>>>       
> to
>   
>>> compensate for wear, not adjust damping rates, even though that's what
>>> everyone uses the adjusters for anyway.
>>>
>>> LL - NY
>>>
>>>       
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