[s-cars] ticking - should I worry?

[Tom Green]

I guess I really did not reenforce your oil choice , Floyd, but I  
meant to.  That
selection should be great for commuting, but do stretch out that  
drive on
occasion to get the oil hot.

I put about 6K on each of 2 S6 vehicles annually so my changes are  
seasonal
rather than mileage driven.  Yours may be also.

And, if you decide to beat it up and down Vail pass with Tom W, you  
might
need a higher viscosity regardless of the season, same up to Tahoe or
Yosemite.


As is often said, YMMV, and your oil choice may vary as well.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:12:17 -0400
> From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Subject: ticking- should i worry?
> To: "Floyd Noel" <floyd.noel at gmail.com>

> Cc: Tom Winter <tom at freeskier.com>,	"s-car-list at audifans.com"
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> 15W50 is heavier than 10W30. Advantage to using a lighter oil would be
> better flow characteristics in cold weather when the oil is cold-  
> for winter
> use, you might want to consider a 5W30, although it is my  
> experience that
> the older Audi engines (I-5 especially) were not built to use  
> lightweight
> oils- my 200 liked 15W50, even though I consider that to be a  
> little too
> heavy for wintertime use, take that with a big grain of salt.
>
> Taka
>
>
> On 10/31/07, Floyd Noel <floyd.noel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes, it sure seems to. I'm just trying to decide which weight to use,
>> now. I was thinking of using 10W30, seeing as I usually only drive
>> about 10 minutes to work (about 3 miles each way) and it is usually
>> cool (40? to 50? F or so) outside when I do so, and the motor
>> doesn't warm up much. Is there any advantages to using a lighter
>> weight like 15W50?
>> R/S
>> Floyd Noel
>> Sgt/USMC
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Tom Winter <tom at freeskier.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Floyd, what did I tell ya, oil gets the list excited!
>>>
>>> Just for the record, I find that I, like Ron, go through some oil
>>> between
>>> changes. My "spirited" driving consists of winding out the avant on
>>> I-70 in
>>> Colorado, usually uphill. There's a great hill right by Georgetown
>>> and it's
>>> nice and steep, with no cops or speed traps. Same goes for heading
>>> out of
>>> Vail eastbound on the west side of Vail Pass. (no speed traps
>>> eastbound, but
>>> I pity the fool who speeds down the pass going west). By winding it
>>> out, I'm
>>> talking 100mph - 130mph when the roads are empty, early in the AM. I
>>> usually
>>> only do this going uphill, due the prolific nature of speed traps on
>>> 70
>>> targeting those going downhill too fast (something about people who
>>> can't go
>>> fast uphill makes them speed like crazy on the downhills, not sure
>>> why that
>>> is?).
>>>
>>> The car has about 160k, with a rebuilt head, rs2 exhaust manifold,
>>> stebro
>>> exhaust and a MTM stage 1 chip.
>>>
>>> Regardless, of the many valid opinions here, I'm sticking to my
>> 4000-5000
>>> mile changes. I can drop off my old oil at the town of Vail bus barn
>>> for
>>> recycling (2 min away from my home), and it's a fast and easy way to
>>> keep my
>>> engine happy.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/07 10:38 AM, "cody at 5000tq.com" <cody at 5000tq.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wouldn't be even remotely worried about the oil going much  
>>>> further.
>>>> What I'd be worried about is all the sh!t floating arround in it
>>>> thats
>>>> getting ground through your bearings and stuck in your oil galleys.
>>>> An
>>>> oil filter is NOT as good at it's job as some would have you  
>>>> believe,
>>>> not to mention then when it gets clogged up it gets bypassed  
>>>> anyways.
>>>> Even just the basic resitance of the filter meadia will slightly  
>>>> open
>>>> the bypass valve and let small stuff through in many cases,
>>>> especially
>>>> in 10 year old engines where the spring on the bypass isn't  
>>>> quite as
>>>> strong as it used to be.
>>>>
>>>> -Cody Forbes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quoting Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> i had an oil analysis done last year, after 7500 miles on mobil 1
>>>>> 15W-50 synthetic.  based on that analysis, it appears the oil  
>>>>> could
>>>>> have gone at least another 5000 miles.  i decided to keep changing
>>>>> at 7500 miles for peace of mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: Floyd Noel <floyd.noel at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Robert Myers <robert at s-cars.org>
>>>>> Cc: Tom Winter <tom at freeskier.com>; "s-car-list at audifans.com"
>>>>> <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:42:57 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Subject:  ticking- should i worry?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure enough, the oil level is low. What do the experts suggest as
>>>>> far
>>>>> as mileage between oil changes? I was thinking 3000 since the s-
>>>>> car is
>>>>>
>>>>> of the higher mileage persuasion.
>>>>>
>>>>> R/S
>>>>> Floyd Noel
>>>>> Sgt/USMC
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2007, at 6:21 AM, Robert Myers <robert at s-cars.org>  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed, Tom.  I would further suggest that the oil level would be
>>>>>> better slightly _above_ the full mark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 09:05 AM 10/31/2007, Tom Winter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/31/07 12:13 AM, "Noel wrote: I started hearing a ticking
>>>>>>> sound at idle.
>>>>>>> The engine still seems to run just fine, so I was hoping for  
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check your oil level. A low level can result in ticking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if you are needing to add oil on a regular basis, like every
>>>>>>> 1000 - 2000
>>>>>>> miles, yeah, I'd start to worry about that! And wonder where all
>>>>>>> that smoke
>>>>>>> was coming from, too! ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>> 95 S6 Avant