[s-cars] Advice needed- warning NAC heretical content inside

Taka Mizutani t44tqtro at gmail.com
Fri Aug 15 13:20:11 PDT 2008


Vincent-
I don't think I can fit in a Lotus- I'd have to be built like you- tall &
skinny.

I think reliability-wise, they would be a nightmare.

Taka


On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Vincent Frégeac <s.sikss at gmail.com> wrote:

> Taka,
>
> One car that was not mentionned, great sport car, can be found under 35K$,
> and you can survive a 1000 miles trip in it: Lotus Esprit SE, S4 or
> S4S.Personnaly, I would go for a S4S because it's really track oriented,
> although much rarer than a SE or a S4. Or a 300 Sport, but that may be over
> budget. You can also try a V8TT, sometime one goes for less than the 35K$
> budget, I've even seen a 350 Sport going for a bit below 40K$. Now, _that_
> was a steal.
>
> It meets the criteria, I think:
> - Practically: None, except if you play golf, a golf bag is all it can
> carry.
> - Winter performance: Not _that_ bad I would say, a mid-engine RWD on snow
> is kind of fun, except that a Lotus Esprit rust faster than you can spell
> R-U-S-T.
> - Power, handling, breaks, feel: That's what lotus is all about, except
> that
> power is interpreted in power/weight ratio. The S4S at 340HP is not that
> much for a supercar, but HP/lb is another story.
>
> Side advantages, you won't find another one at every corner, and they're
> one
> of the most beautiful sport coupe ever made (personal taste or course).
>
> You need to know where to find parts, and they're not exactly cheap, but
> probably not worse than P-parts.
>
> BTW, I don't know how the S2000 have been mentionned with the 1000 miles
> roundtrip criteria. Personnaly, I love it for pure fun on short distance,
> but I've made Montreal-Quebec in one, and it took me 24h to get normal
> hearing back. This shit is the noisest stock car I've ever been in, and not
> exactly a pleasant sound.
>
>
>
> Vincent.
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
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> Objet : [s-cars] Advice needed- warning NAC heretical content inside
>
> Listers-
> I'm looking at getting a new car and would love some input.
>
> I'm looking only at 2-seat sports cars (or 2+2 coupes).
>
> Budget is under $35k tops.
>
> Porsche 996
> Chevy Corvette C6
> NO BMWs
> ???
>
> Those are my top contenders.
>
> Practicality is not an issue (actually, both cars above are pretty decently
> practical).
>
> Bad weather performance is not an issue (that's what snow tires are for and
> I wouldn't drive this car in the snow).
>
> Power, handling, brakes, driving feel are my top priorities. Reliability
> must be halfway decent (no Ferraris).
>
> I also want something that I can take a 1000 mile road trip and not be a
> hairshirt experience (like a Caterham 7).
>
> My concern with the above-
>
> Corvette is a GM- typical GM parts bin crap abounds, possibility of lots of
> stupid little things failing here and there.
>
> Porsche is a Porsche- high parts prices, high maintenance prices, high
> insurance rates, much higher mileage for comparably priced cars.
>
> Audi TT- no way. Audi S4- not a sports car. Audi RS4- yes, but too heavy,
> too expensive. Audi R8- way out of budget.
>
> Lotus Elise- concerns with subframe delamination and failure, very hard
> ingress/egress, not that much power.
>
> Factory Five Roadster, turnkey- definitely nice, but a little too hard to
> live with.
>
> Taka
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