[s-cars] CEL came on while driving, won't restart found code 4411 - HELP! :-)

[chris chambers]

Tom,

There was just the one code, 4411.
Car will stay running all day if you don't shut it off.
But if I get the CEL I know when I shut it off it own't restart.
Let the car sit long enough and it will restart, sometimes this
is an hour, othertimes longer.

There is a stumble at 3-4k rpm which I've believed was a coil
and was planning on getting a replacement coil. Now I'm thinking
I should swap out fuel injector #1 to see if the stumble goes away.

I do have a CPS on it's way and plan on replacing it this weekend, but
until then I still need the transportation.

What else could cause this problem?

IT has been recommended I check:

Fuel pump relay - but the car keeps running unless I shut it off.
Fuel pump fuse - again car stays running
Fuel pump pressure while it's acting up - how would I do this?

Thanks for your help
Chris





--- Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net> wrote:

> You didn't mention a 2111 fault code, Chris.  Perhaps you just
> glossed
> over it because you expected it with the engine not running?  Or does
> your ECU normally not store that code?  I'm just thinking maybe there
> are other codes that it doesn't retain.
> 
> If it was a fuel related problem, and the CEL illuminated, I would  
> expect
> to see some O2 sensor faults triggered if the light is remaining on
> and
> the car is up to normal operating temperatures.
> 
> You're not getting much help from the car on diagnosis.  I really
> don't
> know what to think about all the reports of faulty CPS without a
> fault
> code stored.
> 
> I would make sure there is good fuel pressure at the rail during
> these
> no start episodes.
> 
> Tom
> 
> > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:39:30 -0800 (PST)
> > From: chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [s-cars] CEL came on while driving,	wont restart found
> code
> > 	4411- HELP! :-)
> > To: Scar <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Message-ID: <974293.77128.qm at web65406.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Gentz,
> >
> > Oh so fun news this morning, I'm headed to Toledo
> > from Kalamazoo when the CEL light comes on. I have
> > a CPS on it's way and decide it's not worth
> > gambling having the car not start when I'm so far
> > from home.
> >
> > Turn around and head back, shut the car off and
> > it won't restart. I read the codes and find
> > code 4411, which per www.sjmautotechnik.com is:
> >
> > 4411 (Blink Fault Code), 01249 VAG1551/2 Fault Code Number
> > Fuel Injector for Cylinder 1, (N30)
> > Open or short circuit, +12V supply circuit breaker or fuse open
> > Symptom: Engine runs rough or stalls
> >
> > OK, this doesn't seem to explain the car not
> > restarting, I alreayd have a CPS on it's way is
> > there something else I should be looking at?
> >
> > I do have a set of stock fuel injectors, should
> > I swap out fuel injector #1?
> >
> > Sure could use some help on this as I have to
> > drive to Toledo 2-3 times a week and need to
> > cure this no restart problem.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Chris
> 
> 


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