[s-cars] CEL came on while driving, won't restart found code 4411 - HELP! :-)

Wed Feb 20 07:26:06 PST 2008

Aside from the fact that I didn't have ANY codes when mine happened in Dec, it sounds like the same symptoms I experienced, and it was a dying fuel pump.  I couldn't figure out how something like that would be off-again, on-again.  I would have thought the fuel pump would just die and that'd be it, but it did this for 2 months.  It would run fine for a week, no hesitation, no nothing, but then not start and be the most frustrating thing in the world.

--
Wylie Bean
TheRingmeister at triad.rr.com
90 cq
91 90q20v sport
92 UrS4
01 allroad

---- chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> Gentz,
> 
> I just went out to the car, it started with no hesitation.
> This leads me to believe it's not a fuel pressure problem as
> it hardly cranked and started.
> 
> There was the suggestion that it could be a damaged flywheel pin, which
> I hadn't thouught of because the car stays running and seems to
> re-start
> after sitting for about an hour.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks
> Chris
> 
> --- theringmeister at triad.rr.com wrote:
> 
> > When it's running and the CEL comes on, have you tried messing with
> > the leads to the injector itself?  This is a weird one, no doubt.
> > 
> > Is there a stumble when the CEL comes on, or any other sign of
> > trouble?  If you pull the lead for injector 1 with the car running
> > and the CEL on, does it run any worse? 
> > --
> > Wylie Bean
> > TheRingmeister at triad.rr.com
> > 90 cq
> > 91 90q20v sport
> > 92 UrS4
> > 01 allroad
> > 
> > 
> > ---- chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> > > Tom,
> > > 
> > > There was just the one code, 4411.
> > > Car will stay running all day if you don't shut it off.
> > > But if I get the CEL I know when I shut it off it own't restart.
> > > Let the car sit long enough and it will restart, sometimes this
> > > is an hour, othertimes longer.
> > > 
> > > There is a stumble at 3-4k rpm which I've believed was a coil
> > > and was planning on getting a replacement coil. Now I'm thinking
> > > I should swap out fuel injector #1 to see if the stumble goes away.
> > > 
> > > I do have a CPS on it's way and plan on replacing it this weekend,
> > but
> > > until then I still need the transportation.
> > > 
> > > What else could cause this problem?
> > > 
> > > IT has been recommended I check:
> > > 
> > > Fuel pump relay - but the car keeps running unless I shut it off.
> > > Fuel pump fuse - again car stays running
> > > Fuel pump pressure while it's acting up - how would I do this?
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your help
> > > Chris
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > You didn't mention a 2111 fault code, Chris.  Perhaps you just
> > > > glossed
> > > > over it because you expected it with the engine not running?  Or
> > does
> > > > your ECU normally not store that code?  I'm just thinking maybe
> > there
> > > > are other codes that it doesn't retain.
> > > > 
> > > > If it was a fuel related problem, and the CEL illuminated, I
> > would  
> > > > expect
> > > > to see some O2 sensor faults triggered if the light is remaining
> > on
> > > > and
> > > > the car is up to normal operating temperatures.
> > > > 
> > > > You're not getting much help from the car on diagnosis.  I really
> > > > don't
> > > > know what to think about all the reports of faulty CPS without a
> > > > fault
> > > > code stored.
> > > > 
> > > > I would make sure there is good fuel pressure at the rail during
> > > > these
> > > > no start episodes.
> > > > 
> > > > Tom
> > > > 
> > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:39:30 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > From: chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> > > > > Subject: [s-cars] CEL came on while driving,	wont restart found
> > > > code
> > > > > 	4411- HELP! :-)
> > > > > To: Scar <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > > > > Message-ID: <974293.77128.qm at web65406.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > > > >
> > > > > Gentz,
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh so fun news this morning, I'm headed to Toledo
> > > > > from Kalamazoo when the CEL light comes on. I have
> > > > > a CPS on it's way and decide it's not worth
> > > > > gambling having the car not start when I'm so far
> > > > > from home.
> > > > >
> > > > > Turn around and head back, shut the car off and
> > > > > it won't restart. I read the codes and find
> > > > > code 4411, which per www.sjmautotechnik.com is:
> > > > >
> > > > > 4411 (Blink Fault Code), 01249 VAG1551/2 Fault Code Number
> > > > > Fuel Injector for Cylinder 1, (N30)
> > > > > Open or short circuit, +12V supply circuit breaker or fuse open
> > > > > Symptom: Engine runs rough or stalls
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, this doesn't seem to explain the car not
> > > > > restarting, I alreayd have a CPS on it's way is
> > > > > there something else I should be looking at?
> > > > >
> > > > > I do have a set of stock fuel injectors, should
> > > > > I swap out fuel injector #1?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure could use some help on this as I have to
> > > > > drive to Toledo 2-3 times a week and need to
> > > > > cure this no restart problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Chris
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Make April 15th just another day http://www.fairtax.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >      
> >
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