[s-cars] WAS CEL came on while driving, won't restart NOW Won't start at all......

David Forgie forgied at shaw.ca
Wed Feb 20 16:37:35 PST 2008


Thanks Tony.  Sorry for the double email. The first one got the boot by Audifans (too much text) and I re-did from scratch without the email trail. However, I forgot that you would get both. (Duh).

Now that you post that Volvo info, I remember your original story. (Duh x 2).  I was hoping it was more plug and play based on their five cylinder engines.

Dave F. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Curran <tony.curran at sympatico.ca>
Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:06 pm
Subject: RE: RE: [s-cars] WAS CEL came on while driving,won't restart NOW Won't start at all......
To: 'David Forgie' <forgied at shaw.ca>, 's-car-list' <s-car-list at audifans.com>

> Dave, 
>  
>  I had the CEL and intermittent problem with thrown code. 
> Here's how I fixed
> it - copied from post from two years ago 
>  
>  First, I was able to remove my CPS without removing front 
> of car as  I've
> done the Monster Air Intake mod that removes the stock air 
> intake  snorkel -
> a 24mm socket fits right in the space left behind once the cam 
> belt cover is
> removed. The original Bosch Hall sender device (HKZ101) is now 
> out of
> manufacture. I had started to investigate an alternate part 
> (part no. 2AV54)
> but have not progressed. But I did find the HKZ101 is used in Volvo
> distributors of the mid-80s (probably Audis too). I actually 
> bought a 1988
> Bosch Volvo distributor from a Euro car wrecker in Ottawa for 
> c$50, then
> transplanted the Hall sender to the S-car CPS  mount plate 
> and spliced
> wiring. Has worked floorlessly for about 10 months now. 
>  
>  It has continued to work flawlessly since. I do have a 
> couple of alternate
> devices on shelf procured during GB #2. 
>  
>  Tony 
>  96 S6 - now doomed to have a CPS failure...
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Forgie [mailto:forgied at shaw.ca] 
> Sent: February 20, 2008 6:16 PM
> To: s-car-list
> Cc: Tony Curran
> Subject: Re: RE: [s-cars] WAS CEL came on while driving,won't 
> restart NOW
> Won't start at all......
> 
> 
> 
> Tony: That would seem to make good sense.  Now tell us 
> about the Volvo CPS.
> Complete bolt in or ??
> 
> Dave F. 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Curran <tony.curran at sympatico.ca>
> Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:12 pm
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] WAS CEL came on while driving,won't 
> restart NOW Won't
> start at all......
> To: 'chris chambers' <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>, 
> dgraber460 at aol.com,bob at chips-ur-s.com, forgied at shaw.ca
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> 
> > Maybe there are two types of CPS failure modes. 
> > 
> > One: that I had and reported by some in that the wiring fails 
> > where it comes
> > out of the moulding of the device - wire fatigue. 
> > Two: failure of the device itself - that is the Hall Effect 
> > switch is not
> > responding to the magnetic field change as the cam gap passes 
> > across it.
> > 
> > In the first instance the ECU can do a continuity check in the 
> > wiring and
> > detect a failure and throw the code. In the second, a 
> continuity 
> > check would
> > pass and hence no code is thrown.
> > 
> > Tony
> > 96 S6 - with a Volvo CPS device.
> > 
> 
> 
> 


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