[s-cars] Intro and stalling thread...

Tue Jan 15 11:39:16 PST 2008

I can tell ya'll one thing...
My next OS will be MAC, Microsoft and it's Vista OS can blow...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Green" <trgreen at comcast.net>
To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Intro and stalling thread...

>I am pleased to see that Jamu is a Mac user.  I knew that boy had  
> promise. :-)
> But, are you really sure making a Mac work exactly like a PC is good?
> 
> I agree that the Mac users story at Microsoft does not have much  
> basis in fact.    I
> would expect to find the only advantage over an adequately designed  
> PC laptop
> is in graphics, and only because they tend to go cheap.  That  
> advantage lessens
> in higher end PC models.  If the Microsoft employees want a real  
> difference, they
> need to run OSX, since the real problem with a PC is the inefficiency  
> of Windoze
> itself
> 
> I am totally with you Ian, on the advantages of using a Mac, although  
> my G5
> models operate just fine, especially since I don't gum up the works  
> with Windoze.
> This leaves me to wonder why someone would try to screw up a great  
> machine by
> putting windows on it.  :-)
> 
> That leaves me to postulate that what your group really needs is a  
> moderately
> priced PC that will natively run OSX.  Then you have a great  
> operating system
> with hardware you can cheaply discard and replace,  doesn't make such a
> big target for thieves, nor generate all the envy from fellow  
> passengers or workers.
> 
> Tom
> 
>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:28:18 -0500
>> From: Ian Duff <iduff at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Intro and stalling thread...
>> To: James Murray <james.murray at ericsson.com>
>> Cc: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>, john cl?irigh
>> <john at johncleirigh.com>
>> Message-ID: <6FED58F5-52C1-498F-B3A6-73820B624B24 at comcast.net>
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>> And if using a virtualization product such as Parallels or Fusion
>> isn't close enough, Apple offers users the ability to boot into either
>> OS X (ad use the VM stuff there), or boot directly into the OS of your
>> choice, such as XP or Vista.
>>
>> The performance of a Mac running a Windows variant natively (i.e.
>> booting directly into it) is astounding, reported to be faster than on
>> what would be considered a very fast PC. Apocryphal note: some
>> Microsoft employees are reputed to be using Macs from which all
>> vestiges of OS X have been removed, as the preferred Windows platform,
>> since they are so fast.
>>
>> -Ian Duff.
>>
>> On 14 Jan, 2008, at 16:29, James Murray wrote:
>>
>>> I recently installed latest VMWare Fusion product and can attest
>>> that I am most impressed with it! Makes a Mac work exactly like a
>>> PC...
>>>
>>> http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/
>>>
>>> /Jamu.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list- 
>>> bounces at audifans.com
>>> ] On Behalf Of Ian Duff
>>> Sent: January 14, 2008 2:42 PM
>>> To: john cl?irigh
>>> Cc: s-car-list
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Intro and stalling thread...
>>>
>>> I use VAG-COM and Bentley quite happily in a Parallels Virtual  
>>> Machine
>>> (VM) running Windows XP on my Intel-based MacBook Pro.
>>>
>>> If your Mac is Intel-based, I encourage you to check out either
>>> Parallels  http://www.parallels.com/en/products/desktop/ or  
>>> VMWare  http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/
>>>  for virtualizing Windows. They are each very good, with little to
>>> distinguish them, until one really reaches the arcane corners of
>>> their capability brag sheets. I happen to use Parallels, and have
>>> colleagues using VMWare, and we find very little real difference.
>>> Sure, the evangelists for either product will proclaim theirs best,
>>> but that's really just fanboy bravado; either will do a great job.
>>>
>>> If your Mac is an older PowerPC-based model, you might consider
>>> upgrading, as the performance of the newer Macs is astonishing when
>>> compared to older PPC-based models. If upgrading is unlikely, you
>>> will either have to find an el-cheapo Windows box, or use a Windows
>>> emulator on your Mac. I have not run an emulator, but have heard
>>> groans and grumblings when they are discussed. Of course, eBay is a
>>> fair source for el-cheapo WinTel boxes, but caveat emptor.
>>>
>>> To run VAG-COM in a Windows XP VM on my Mac required an upgrade to a
>>> USB connected dongle http://ross-tech.com/vag-com/hex-usb+can.html,
>>> after that it's all peaches and cream.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>> -Ian Duff.
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