[s-cars] Qu: Control Arms
Adam Cramer
crameradam at gmail.com
Wed Jul 30 17:35:58 PDT 2008
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:22 PM, <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:
> Tony,
> I'm afraid it has been too long for me to definitively answer your
> question.? I *think* they can be removed as a single piece.
>
> Thing I do know for certain:
>
> 1) The 2B plates must be removed first, and the stockers put back in place.
> 2) Those bearings you speak of are the interface between the upper spring
> perch and the strut tower.? When they're bad, they bind and release, causing
> a fairly alarming banging noise... most often noticeable while backing out
> of a parking spot.
>
> Other things...
>
> If you are replacing your tie rod ends, make sure that the bushings in the
> rod assembly are tight where they attach to the steering rack.? I've?seen
> those good bad just as often as the actual ball joint in the tie rod end...
> and you can't buy them.? Sometimes it is best to buy the whole assembly.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jpb3 <jpburns3 at gmail.com>
> To: djdawson2 at aol.com
> Cc: tony.curran at sympatico.ca; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Sent: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 9:54 am
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Qu: Control Arms
>
>
>
> Tony,
>
> I just purchased TRW control arms from partsquick.com for $97 each.
> They ship quickly too.
>
> On a side note (Dave) I am planning on pulling both front struts soon
> to replace the wheel bearings and at the same time I am going to
> replace the control arms, tie rod ends, swaybar bushings (inner), DS
> axle and the strut bearings. My question is can I pull the entire
> strut assembly without removing springs and replace the strut bearings
> (the big plastic circles) without a spring compressor? I have not had
> the struts out of the car before and cannot wrap my mind around the
> set up. I have 2B plates and know I have to put the OEM mounts
> (bearings or mounts as they seem to be called both) to get the strut
> to drop through the top hole and I believe I have read that this will
> keep the whole assembly together? I can then press out/in the
> bearings with the whole strut (spring and all) together?
>
> So, once I loosen the 3 bolts up top and have everything disconnected
> at the bottom the entire strut assembly just falls out? I presume
> these plastic strut bearings I have are the interface between the body
> of the car and the top spring plate and if I have the whole assembly
> out of the car I can just stick the new ones up against the top plate
> as I put everything back together?
>
> Sorry if this is OT and confusing, but I am confused. I imagine I am
> making this more complicated than it is and it is probably pretty
> evident once I start unbolting things.
>
> Also, the metal sleeve. I have read you can use a lug bolt to remove
> these without messing them up?
>
> John
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:03 AM, <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:
> > I've purchased control arms from Blau in the past... german parts.? They
> have
> worked as good as anything I've tried, and are priced at about $86 each.
> >
> > This is a DIY job if you have typical shadetree experience.? The only
> trick is
> getting the swaybar back into the "eyes" on the control arms.? I prefer to
> compress the suspension to maximize the distance between the two eyes on
> the
> control arms, making re
> install of the swaybar quite easy.
> >
> > One point to keep in mind... each control arm bolts to the subframe with
> a
> single long bolt.? That bolt has a sleeve (looks like a large valve guide)
> that
> typically gets ruined during disassembly.? You'll want to make sure to buy
> a
> pair of these to insure that you don't get stuck halfway through the job.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Schulz <pcschulz at comcast.net>
> > To: Tony Curran <tony.curran at sympatico.ca>
> > Cc: S-Car-List at Audifans.Com <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 8:41 pm
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Qu: Control Arms
> >
> >
> >
> > Tony:
> >
> > Yes, they are better ...and (no stated brand is a risk not worth taking).
> >
> > Related case - I needed to replace the outer tie rods on my S6,
> > decided to try the TRW/Moogs.
> > Compared to the Febi/Bilstein Tie Rod ends, they are larger, the
> > rubber on the boot appears to be thicker, there is a spring retainer
> > for the boot, and even the tie rod stud has a dimple to center the
> > tie rod puller.....
> >
> > -Peter
> >
> > At 09:35 PM 7/29/2008 -0400, Tony Curran wrote:
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>Control arms are up for renewal. Just wondering if this is a DIY job for
> >>reasonably savvy home wrench? And are TRW arms that much better for the
> >>extra $$$$ - $247 pair from Canadian online source for (TRW) or $187 from
> >>German Auto Parts (no stated brand).
> >>
> >>TIA
> >>
> >>Tony
> >>96 S6
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