[s-cars] Special thanks to the Gregs for BIRA

[JC]

I'll heartily second Dave's remarks.  I may not have had early-days
foundational a serial number as Dave, but I found the BIRA setup to be a
great simple affordable rig of high engineering quality, and also always
very much appreciated the very cool enthusiast-engineered semi-non-profit
aspect.  My only regret was selling mine thinking I wouldn't want to re-use
it at a later date. DOH.

Obviously it was a hassle at various times though, and my sympathies to you
guys.  It was always amazing periodically, despite all the vast and explicit
disclaimers and information available beforehand, some guy would sign up
blindly then start complaining about 'bad customer service' or or wanting
instant order delivery, and how often the Gregs or somebody else would have
to re-post the same patient explanations and disclaimers.  Not to mention
the occaisional petty arguments as to whether the operation was truly
exactly non-profit... (I for one hope that you at least got a few beers out
of the deal). Sometimes you just can't make this stuff up.   Frankly,
watching this stuff go by on the BIRA mailing list was frustrating enough
for me, I can't imagine being the direct target of it.

Anyway, +1 in the thanks department - both for the setup and the patience
over the years.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Greg Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 0:45 AM
> To: David Forgie; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Cc: Greg Amy
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Special thanks to the Gregs for BIRA
>
> Dave,
>
> You're most welcome.  Many thanks for taking the time to
> write and for the kudos.  We believed our parts were
> over-engined when we designed them and it's good to know
> they've provided almost a decade of service without issue.
> We've always felt that the folks who ripped off our designs
> never did the necessary engineering.  They just went to our
> web site and saw what calipers we were placing over which
> rotors and tried to do the same thing.
> Later on they discovered, there was a bit more to the process.
>
> I'd like to take the opportunity to thank you and our
> hundreds of other members.  It was a fun and special time.
> It's strange to think of it all in retrospect but so it goes.
>
> Greg J
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:56 PM, David Forgie <forgied at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Greg J:  I don't know how many times you have been thanked
> publically
> > for developing and implementing the BIRA systems but after
> your recent
> > posting on the history of BIRA, I feel that I need to
> publicly thank
> > you.  I bought my 93 S4 in 1998 and immediately started on the
> > slippery slope. First up was brakes because my mantra is
> "Always more
> > brakes BEFORE more power".  As you pointed out (and I
> remember), there
> > were no inexpensive brake modding pathways back then, at
> least until
> > BIRA showed up.  I was an early adopter and own System 1
> brackets 003
> > and 004.  The brackets have been on the car since 1999
> (98?) and there
> > have been  zero problems with them.  This has not been the
> case with
> > at least two firms that have tried the same concept but failed to
> > execute with the same attention to detail that you and Greg
> did with
> > the BIRA brackets.
> >
> > Thanks again for developing an affordable brake upgrade pathway.
> >
> > Dave F.
> >
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