[s-cars] Snow tire shopping, blizzak vs Nokian vs? thoughts?

[Michael Lardizabal]

I've had Blizzaks,Hakka's and currently Artic Alpins that are 205 55 16's.
 
The Hakk's are pretty amazing, I'd say the better of the 3 for all around snow.

--- On Tue, 11/18/08, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:

From: LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Snow tire shopping, blizzak vs Nokian vs? thoughts?
To: "Erik Addy" <erikaddy at yahoo.com>
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 5:53 PM

Haven't tried the X-ice, so I'll have to go with TireRack's review.
Just
saying Michelin has been behind the times w/rt fresh snow. Neither the
Alpins, nor my brother's Pilot Alpins have fared well in loose stuff, even
compared to High Performance Snows like my previous Dunlop Wintersport M2's
or my Conti Vikings. Hopefully, they've figured it out, or have figured out
that the world doesn't revolve around Paris.

LL - NY

On 11/18/08, Erik Addy <erikaddy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ah, I see.  However, I still maintain that the X-Ice series is decent in
> loose snow (although not as good as the best).  Look at the tread
patten...
> the Alpins had nothing but simply grooves along the circumference (and the
> sipes you mentioned), the X-Ice has some tread blocks and "zag"s
to them.
> Check out the TireRack review on them.  The Xi2's are compared to the
> Blizzak WS-60, Goodyears, and even the Hakka RSi's (since it was a
Michelin
> event).
>
> Erik
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
> *To:* Erik Addy <erikaddy at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* s-car-list at audifans.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:53:39 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [s-cars] Snow tire shopping, blizzak vs Nokian vs?
> thoughts?
>
> Actually, I thought the entire Alpin line was mostly designed for ice and
> hardpack conditions, which bears out in my experience with them. They were
> the first with the Michelin's patented "Y" sipe, which was
done to keep the
> sipe to tread ration constant as the tires wore. As I said, they were
pretty
> exceptional on freezing rain (the really scary stuff) and pretty damned
good
> on hard pack. They were just simply terrible in loose stuff.
>
> LL - NY
>
>
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