[s-cars] Headlight motors, type 44 ... wiring?

Jim Pasqualoni jim.pasqualoni at gmail.com
Sun Sep 7 05:04:08 PDT 2008


Dave,

Brown is ground, and the others are for raising or lowering.  Not sure which 
wire does which, so you may have to dicker with them.  Now, is there a relay 
involved in this?  Would seem to me that there should be, since the switch 
is of a rotary nature, and the motors are actuated for a pre-set travel 
distance when the dial is turned to position 1, 2 or 3...

HTH,
Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kneale Brownson" <knealeski at sbcglobal.net>
To: <quattro at audifans.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>; 
<200q20v at audifans.com>; <urq at audifans.com>; <v8 at audifans.com>; "Dave C" 
<dconner at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Headlight motors, type 44 ... wiring?


Some old Audifans postings related to the topic (except the motors):

And Huw added the following details:

As a small addition, ground wires will be brown, and the low beam should
be yellow & yellow/black, the high beam white & white/black.




At 10:27 PM 9/15/2006 -0400, Kneale Brownson wrote:
>Here's some info I saved in reference to the pix you can get to from the
>link that follows:
>
>The plugs are available through mercedes benz parts
>Part # 011-545-50-28 you will need 2 of these at 2.55 each .
>The pins are available at MB parts also
>Part # 003-545-26-26 you will need 12 of these at 2.55
>each .
>these are a solder type plug so you will need wire and solder and a
>soldering gun and flux to do this or you can go to a salvage yard and get
>the left and the right taillamp harnesses out of a 190E Mercedes Benz.they
>come with the wires already solderd to the pins and the plastic plugsthat
>fit perfectly to the euro lamp!!!
>Now the hook up.
>there are numbers on the back of the lamp next to the pin it locates .
>56b LOWBEAM POSITIVE TOP LEFT PIN
>56a HIGHBEAM POSITIVE TOP RIGHT PIN
>57 SIDEMARKER LIGHT MIDDLE LEFT PIN
>58 INDICATER LIGHT IN HEADLAMP MIDDLE RIGHT PIN
>Wire 57 & 58 TOGETHER
>31 GROUND LOWER LEFT PIN
>31 GROUND LOWER RIGHT PIN
>wire 31 & 31 TOGETHER
>
>http://www.pbase.com/kneale_brownson/image/32974154
>
>
>
>
>At 05:05 PM 9/15/2006 -0700, John Bysinger wrote:
>>Trying again...
>>
>>The one thing I haven't found yet is the pinout for the euro headlight
>>connecter. If I go by this drawing
>>http://members.aol.com/audipage/eurowire.gif there's only 4 wires. There's
>>6 pins on each connector, but the drawing only lists 4, maybe 2 are 
>>unused?
>> I've got the plastic connecter part w/ terminals, but no wires... It's
>>numbered as follows (pardon my ascii drawing):
>>
>>1-|O O|-2
>>3-|O O|-4
>>5-|O O|-6
>> ||||---- wires
>>
>>Anyone have this handy? or have the euro harness to look at the wire
>>colors?


--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Dave C <dconner at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dave C <dconner at gmail.com>
Subject: Headlight motors, type 44 ... wiring?
To: quattro at audifans.com, s-car-list at audifans.com, 200q20v at audifans.com, 
urq at audifans.com, v8 at audifans.com
Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 11:08 PM

Howdy all,

I'm installing eurolights and would like to include the motorized
adjusters.  I have the euro lights, motors, wiring harness and switch so it
all looks pretty straightforward.  The car is an 1987 5ktq, but I don't
know
what model year the harness came out of.  The one thing I'm hung up on is
connecting this harness into the stock U.S. wiring.  Of course the Bentley
wiring diagrams don't show this because this was a strictly euro feature
AFAIK.  Maybe headlight motors came to the US on other models (maybe the
V8?) but I don't know.

The harness has a three point plug and I need to connect these 3 wires into
the stock wiring somehow.  It has yellow (Y), brown (BR) and black
(BK) wires.  I think BRN = ground, Y = power ... BK = I don't know.

Could someone tell me the function of the BK wire?  What to connect these
three wires to?

thanks,
Dave C
Columbus,OH
89 100E
87 5ktq
87 5ks
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