No subject

Coolant and oil leaks have plenty of places to arise from and more likely
than not, will happen. Cam plugs, seals, valve cover(s), coolant lines,
metal line o-ring headaches, valley pan gasket, transmission problems, ABS
pump failures (typically the electronic half, not hydraulic). Instrument
cluster issues. EPC faults. I could go on.

My opinion of them is very low due to first hand experience.

Your S6 sounds like it needs a good chunk of change to be brought up to
snuff, and would then be a keeper compared to the 2.8 Passat.

Of course, you could appease her current dislike for the S and then once
acquired the Passat that is a never ending money pit,  and once it too late,
reminisce on just how dependable and servicable the S6 was.

I service these particular cars a lot and everyone that has one is either
looking to get rid of it or already has.

Caveat emptor! Aaron

-Brian


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:58 AM, AaronT <atay101 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks everyone for your insight
> I should have mentioned - My interest in the passat is to replace my Avant
> which has essentially ended up in my wifes hands and she is tired of the
> "nickles and dimes".
> With my job ive been taking the bus or riding my bike and the only time I
> drive seems to be when we are out of town on the weekend camping / riding
> etc and for that we use the camper van. (Ford diesel - 160Kmi NOTHIING
> needed except brakes for the duration)
> So...performace concerns with the passat are understood coming from this
> crowd but she could basically care less.
> My concerns are with longevity and maintenance costs.
> I  understand the V6's run a timing chain so 60k mi timing belt changes are
> a thing of the past.
> Anything else significant to look forward to on the path from 75k to 150k+
> mi?
> Cheers
> Aaron
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:09 AM, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Maybe it's just Passats, since my buddie's Passat seems to be just as
> > recalcitrant. New batteries and the subsequent reset is all.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder if you have issues with your keys- my mom's beetle has been
> fine
> >> and the old a4 never had any issue with the key.
> >>
> >> Did you try fresh batteries and resyncing the keys?
> >>
> >> On Sep 9, 2010 8:30 AM, "LL - NY" <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I can chime in on my experience with my Mom's 2001.5 GLX 4mo Wagon
> (same
> >> > car, for the most part as an '03 I think some features change,
> >> > otherwise it's another post facelift (still B5) car. 2.8 V6 30V).
> >> >
> >> > Beware, the car is of very low miles (Mom doesn't travel much, just
> >> local
> >> > driving) and it's been through a number of hits (one fairly severe) as
> >> Mom
> >> > also doesn't drive real well.
> >> >
> >> > Overall, competent vehicle, pleasant enough of a drive. For spirited
> >> driving
> >> > if you're used to UrS thrust, well, it doesn't have it. It has
> perfectly
> >> > adequate pull, but the very act of spirited driving highlights it's
> one
> >> > biggest flaw, Tiptronic. In regular driving, it's fine, virtually
> >> > transparent. In spirited driving, it's slow to kickdown (even with
> >> manual
> >> > selection) fast to shift up, will not hold at redline and it's got a
> low
> >> rev
> >> > stall speed (for the weak low down torque, this works against getting
> a
> >> good
> >> > launch, say, like trying to get into heavy fast traffic from a side
> >> street).
> >> > Due to the pedal interlock, you can't LFB.
> >> >
> >> > Problems (car has less than 30K miles), running wise, essentially
> none.
> >> Only
> >> > real problem is the stereo head unit, which has now the standard VAG
> >> issues,
> >> > (display winks out, first it was the backlight, now when the actual
> >> display
> >> > goes out) the only control that works is the power switch on the head
> >> unit
> >> > and the steering wheel controls. All other head unit controls go AWOL
> >> when
> >> > the display is out. You can sometimes restore the display (thus
> control)
> >> by
> >> > pressing on the face of the unit, but this obviously is not going to
> >> last
> >> > forever. The unit is a Typhoon, but doesn't have the CD changer out
> >> back.
> >> >
> >> > Car has held up fairly well considering that Mom doesn't really care
> >> about
> >> > cars at all, and it's condition at any time kind of shows it. A good
> >> > cleaning would bring everything back (i.e. the materials, inside and
> out
> >> > hold up well except the exterior brightwork, which is getting the VAG
> >> > "milky" patina) except for the dents that have nothing to do with the
> >> car.
> >> > As a DD, it's nicer (I think) and a much better drive than say a
> similar
> >> > vintage Camry. Still, it doesn't have quite the same verve as the UrS
> >> when
> >> > the roads get interesting. I guess the best word I can think of for it
> >> was
> >> > the first one I used...competent. And perhaps more reliable than a C4
> >> car.
> >> > It IS much more dependent on diagnostics and system changes on
> VAG-COM.
> >> >
> >> > My local friend has a 2003 1.8T 5sp 4mo Wagon (rare!) and the only
> real
> >> > issues he has had (car has well over 100K miles on it now) has been
> the
> >> door
> >> > locks, and brakes (although he has a dirt driveway. Mom's car is
> >> garaged).
> >> > BOTH cars suffer from the most irritating remote key controls on the
> >> planet.
> >> > It's like Forrest Gump's box of choclates. You press a button and ya
> >> never
> >> > know if it's gonna work. If it were me, and nothing of value was in
> the
> >> car,
> >> > I'd leave the damn thing unlocked...oh, you can't. The stupid hatch
> will
> >> > lock anyway. It's like the car's remote and locking functions were
> >> designed
> >> > by and for...Americans.
> >> >
> >> > HTH,
> >> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:16 AM, AaronT <atay101 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Sorry folks but another non scar question -
> >> >> Anybody have any direct experience with a 2003 VW passat 4Mo wagon
> >> (2.8v6)?
> >> >> Still looking for a reasonable replacement for my 95S6Avant....
> >> >> Which by the way has been rather trouble free lately - famous last
> >> words.
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> Aaron
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