[s-cars] Sumitomo HTR ZIII

[Michael Lardizabal]

I was in LA last week where I used my brother's 04 Mustang Mach I that is clad w/ HTRZ III's .
 
Good grip , but the ride is pretty unforgiving. Sizes are 265/295 18's.
 
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR ZIII
To: "Cody Forbes" <cody at 5000tq.com>
Cc: "Robert Rossato" <rossato.qlist at gmail.com>, "s-car-list at audifans.com" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:19 PM


Which Michelins and how are they stored?

I'm running PS2 for a year, had them in storage for 5 months prior, no dry
rot or any other issues. I have not seen the issue that you're talking
about- my Mom's Beetle had Michelin MXV4 Energy as OE, lasted well over 60k
miles, no dry rot or cracking.

You can say the same about a lot of tires, depending on how they're stored-
my Nokian Hakkapelitta WR are cracking on the outer shoulder blocks, will
have to replace them this winter. Bought them in fall of '04, now going on 5
yrs. old.

I also know a bunch of P-car guys that swear by their PS Cups.

Taka


On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com> wrote:

> IME Michelins are a waste of money. The tread never wears out, but they dry
> rot very very fast. I've seen sidewall cracks start after six months and
> most of the time they have enough large cracks to be unsafe arround 18
> months. YMMV, etc, but that's what I have observed on more than 20 sets on
> customer cars.
>
> -Cody (mobile)
>
>
> On Aug 6, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I went the other way with tires the last time- I got tires for the V70R
>> last
>> year- went with Michelin PS2- excellent all-around tire- quiet when you're
>> just driving around, excellent dry and wet grip. I can't speak on
>> longevity
>> because I haven't had them long enough, but I'm very happy with them-
>> they're excellent compromise tires- not as extreme performance-biased as
>> something like a BS RE-11 or Yokohama AD-08, but for a sporty sedan (or
>> wagon), they're worth every penny.
>>
>> I know you guys aren't looking for a $190/ea. type of tire, though. Think
>> about it this way- tires on my Vette are going to run me north of $1200 so
>> you should consider yourselves lucky that you're not feeding a tire-eating
>> monster.
>>
>> Unfortunately, you kind of get what you pay for- cheap tires don't usually
>> translate into good performance. I don't think I'd put those on an S-car-
>> too stiff and extreme. Getting something that's more comfortable and still
>> grippy in the wet and dry usually ends up being expensive.
>>
>> BTW, has anyone looked at the new Continental? It looks promising- Extreme
>> Contact DW is only $122/ea. in 225/45R17.
>>
>> Taka
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