[s-cars] Teen cars Mine vs UrS4 .. Who wins?

[Brian Armstead]

Taka is totally right here.  Totally.
-----Original Message-----
From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:28:06 
To: LL - NY<larrycleung at gmail.com>
Cc: erikaddy at yahoo.com<erikaddy at yahoo.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Teen cars Mine vs UrS4 .. Who wins?

You're simply wrong, Larry. The way the car is constructed makes a huge
difference. The impact can be redirected around the passenger compartment in
a well designed car.

The Renault supermini that hits a Volvo 940 is a clear case of the smaller,
lighter car prevailing over the big, heavy tank of a car.

Take a look at Chevy's offset crash of a '59 Impala vs. a '09 Impala and
you'll see the same thing. Energy absorption and redirection are crucial in
crash safety.

On the same fifth gear link, the next two videos are of a Renault Espace vs.
a Land Rover Discovery- the Disco is a much heavier vehicle- guess which one
wins?

You guys are all theorizing about stuff when there is empirical evidence
that clearly shows that you're wrong.

Taka


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mass wins.  Since Newton's 3rd Law guarantees the force of impact is the
> same on both vehicles, from F = ma, the acceleration of the more massive
> vehicle, reduced by nearly 25% in the case of absolutes, but a whopping 67%
> compared car to car, (assuming back of the napkin road weight of 4000# for
> the UrS, 3000# for the Mini) means the passengers in the Audi experience
> 67%
> less collision force than those in the Mini. Airbags in both vehicles
> mitigate that difference substantially, however, but you're going to be
> hurting more (assuming survivable impact speeds) stepping out of the Mini
> than the Audi. Side impact, if Mini's have side bags of some form, I'd bet
> on the Mini.
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM, chris chambers <
> fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Gentz,
> >
> > I can't help but wonder how one of our UrS4/S6 cars would fair in a head
> on
> > with a Mini or the Renault.
> > I may be completely ignorant and uninformed but I think the S would win.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: "erikaddy at yahoo.com" <erikaddy at yahoo.com>
> > > To: qshipq at aol.com; s-car-list at audifans.com
> > > Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 10:07:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Teen cars
> > >
> > > Not a leap at all.  The construction in a mini will destroy the late
> 70s
> > tech in
> > > the cgt (or any other car from that era).
> > >
> > > I wasn't suggesting a mini for a teen, I just used that for
> illustration
> > as it
> > > is a small car available in the US.  You were mentioning the
> construction
> > of the
> > > cgt in terms of safety and I'm saying almost any 2000+ car makes a cgt
> > look like
> > > a death trap.
> > >
> > > Erik Addy
> > > Sent from a mobile device.
> > >
> > > ----- Reply message -----
> > > From: qshipq at aol.com
> > > Date: Wed, Dec 9, 2009 00:10
> > > Subject: [s-cars] Teen cars
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