[s-cars] OEM vs 1.8T or LS2 coil prices

[Tom Green]

Perhaps I should have said the prices have moderated from their steep  
climb.  Although cheaper POS units are available, i.e. the $126.98  
Beru unit at
www.bimmerspecialist.com,  the 1.8t substitution is still much cheaper  
for an entire system.

Much of the issue of the OEM units is the difficulty troubleshooting  
when you only have a high speed miss.  I don't agree that you can do a  
satisfactory
troubleshooting job by running on 4 cylinders (3 when the bad coil  
misfires).  And, changing the coil is an involved process as well.   
This leads many
to change all 5 coils and both POS units, which is an expensive  
solution for sure.

You will just have to add up the costs of the 1.8t parts and harness  
and any covers and factor in your comfort with the reliability of  
those coils.  I don't
think there is one good answer for everyone.  The 1.8t coil system  
costs less initially and is easier to troubleshoot and replace coils.   
The LS2 system
may be the answer, and, like the 1.8t system,  can be inexpensive if  
you can fabricate the harness.

Tom


On Jan 5, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Theodore Chen wrote:

> all this discussion makes me very happy that i replaced my CPS as a  
> maintenance item with a new sensor from one of the GBs.  i should  
> have picked up an extra sensor while i was at it.
>
> hadn't known about the drop in OEM POS and coil prices.  how does  
> replacing with OEM compare to converting to 1.8T or LS2 parts now?   
> the LS2 conversion looks like a good way to go.  i'm not sure if i  
> have a failing coil or POS, but there are times when the car doesn't  
> produce as much power as it should, and last year, the car began  
> misfiring badly up a long steep grade in 2nd gear (old priest grade  
> on the way to yosemite from the SF bay area).
>
> From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
> To: theringmeister at triad.rr.com
> Cc: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 8:04:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re how do I get codes?
>
> Sure you do, Wylie.  It's $136.62 at Miramar Audi, which is a lot  
> better
> than the $396 I paid in 2001.
>
> Your point on the sensor price is something all should take note of,  
> and
> have one or two on hand for just such an occasion.  Even if you buy a
> new part, put a new sensor on the old part.  These GBs must have put a
> big dent in OEM parts sales and resulted in some of the price  
> decrease.
> The same is seen in POS and coil prices with the 1.8t coil  
> conversions.
> It may be the result of a temporary overstock rather than a permanent
> price, so it pays to keep current on prices.
>
> Tom
>
> On Jan 4, 2009, at 8:59 PM, Wylie Bean wrote:
>
> > The sensor from the GB is ~$15. Dealer price is (youdon't want to
> > know).
> >
> > Wylie Bean (via blackberry)
> > 90 cq
> > 91 90q20v
> > 92 UrS4
> > 01 allroad
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Kase <desmo888 at comcast.net>
> >
> > Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:55:36
> > To: Tom Green<trgreen at comcast.net>
> > Cc: s-car-list<s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re how do I get codes?
> >
> >
> > Thanks Tom.  I have done the blink codes on my 20v cars but I  
> thought
> > the S6 would be different.
> >
> > Thanks for the offer on the part.  I am just going to pick up the
> > sensor
> > and do the timing belt and water pump all together.  I have no  
> history
> > on the belt so I will just knock it all out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > Tom Green wrote:
> >>>
> >> Dave,
> >>
> >> For someone who has danced around this list for so many years,
> >> you sure didn't learn/retain very much.  : > )  Very selective
> >> reader,
> >> I guess.
> >>
> >> Scott Mockry"s web site will reveal all about code reading.  The
> >> VAG-COM provides more data than the blink code, but if the CPS
> >> code is there, the blink code will suffice.
> >>
> >> If a code does reveal a faulty CPS, I could provide a sensor
> >> (BBMacao) or entire part on a replacement basis--your choice.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:34:11 -0500
> >>> From: Dave Kase <desmo888 at comcast.net>
> >>> Subject: [s-cars] how do I get codes?
> >>> To: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> >>> Message-ID: <49602E33.7050502 at comcast.net>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>>
> >>> How do I get codes from the bitch?  I want to see if the CPS has
> >>> shit
> >>> the bed.
> >>>
> >>> I also need a source for the hall effect switch on the CPS.  I
> >>> had one
> >>> for my e//S2 but gave it away with the car.
> >>>
> >>> Kase aka "cheeseman" on this list only...
> >>>
> >>> '95 S6
> >>
> >>
> >
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