[s-cars] Fog light HID upgrade?

Tony Curran tony.curran at sympatico.ca
Wed Jan 28 17:59:57 PST 2009


Here in Canada, the fogs can't be turned on unless the low beams are on.
Fogs go off when hi beams are on.

Tony
96 S6

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Lee Levitt
Sent: January 28, 2009 8:50 PM
To: LL - NY; JC
Cc: S-Car-List at Audifans.Com; Mark Strangways
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Fog light HID upgrade?



Not sure what you guys are talking about. On my '95.5 S6, my 
wife's 96 A6 and my son's A6, I was/am able to operate the fogs 
independently of any other lights.

IIRC, we just provided ignition on power to the dash switch and 
all was good.

Lee


On Wed Jan 28 19:33:00 CST 2009, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Yeah, I figured out the jumper doesn't work for the 95.5 also.
> May simply
> use the main switched circuit to pick the fog with a conditional 
> relay
> (signal in and out, no power) also trigged (the condition) to the 
> p-lights
> to trigger the actual fog relay. Signal relays used to be 
> availible from
> McMaster-Carr. Otherwise, going to have to dig into the old books 
> to design
> a stupidly simple logic circuit that would have to ride inside 
> the interior.
> Damn German EE's couldn't  have left things alone. Now I have to 
> design a
> circuit to defeat their circuit.
> 
> LL - NY
> 
> On 1/28/09, JC <jc at j2c3.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mark - Yeah what Bob is talking about is more of a type of
>> driving light
>> than a true fog application. But I can totally identify with his 
>> impulse
>> having lived at the end of a 1/4 mile driveway into endless 
>> woods in the
>> past. The current 'pod' type projector aftermarkets are so good 
>> though,
>> that
>> might be the way to go and gives you a range of choice in beam 
>> from various
>> 'driving' to fog type beam diffusion. I certainly would worry 
>> about the
>> heat
>> in the projector housing, especially if it's simultaneous to 
>> another high
>> temp bulb in the low beams.
>> 
>> Of course think we all agree about ubiquifogs these days. IMO an
>> OEM needs
>> to make the fog on button a momentary so that it has to 
>> willfully be turned
>> on every time rather than left in on constantly. Around '98 or 
>> so Audi went
>> to a switch like this but the stupid German mistake they made 
>> was to assume
>> that Americans would be awake enough to discern between 'front 
>> fog' and
>> 'rear fog' positions, and hence drivers in the USA just crank 
>> that knob out
>> all the way all the time, not even knowing that there's such a 
>> thing as a
>> rear fog light glaring in someone's face...
>> 
>> To the fogs-only point for snow - absolutely - I am irritated to
>> have not
>> figured out a clever method to activate the fog switch with 
>> parking
>> lights... I have a wiring diagram on my desk now and have been 
>> trying to
>> figure a clever way to get that done unintrusively.  I have a 
>> 95.5 so the
>> simple relay jumper trick doesn't work...
>> 
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
>> > [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Mark
>> Strangways
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 16:54 PM
>> > To: lee at wheelman.com; Robert Myers
>> > Cc: 'S-Car-List at Audifans.Com'
>> 
>> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Fog light HID upgrade?
>> >
>> 
>> > I put a second of 150W halogen driving lights on the front of
>> my Jeep.
>> > They focus way in front of you, and that combined with regular 
>> > bulbs yields an almost daylight in front of me whilst in the back 
>> > 40. Not real friendly to oncoming traffic mind you, but it has
>> > halted quite a few deer at the shoulders.
>> >
>> > For my 2 cents on this, fogs have no place on cars these days. 
>> > People just leave them on whenever the turn their
>> headlights on.
>> > This does very little other than light up the road in front of you 
>> > and piss oncoming traffic off... though I have found that I have 
>> > never seen a cop car with fogs on, so that kinda helps determine if 
>> > you need to slow down at all.
>> >
>> > 2 weeks ago I drove through a pretty much blinding blizzard, while 
>> > many where tooling along in whatever lane they could create with 
>> > their high beams a blazing, blinding themselves.. I was doing silly 
>> > speeds in 4 wheel, with just my fogs on and I could see much better 
>> > than using low beams and fogs. This is what I feel they are made 
>> > for, and this only. As stated they do really screw up your long 
>> > range vision by having too much near field light right in front of 
>> > you.
>> >
>> 
>> 
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