[s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven

Sat Jul 25 11:24:49 PDT 2009

As much as I would love to weigh in on the topic I'm reminded that  
this is the s car list.

Can we stray back on topic a bit perhaps?  :-)

Darin Nederhoff

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On Jul 25, 2009, at 1:17 PM, joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com wrote:

> I don't see anything in the constitution about right to healthcare,  
> though.  But it's been a while.
>
> I think the less we leave in the hands of public officials, the  
> better off we'll be.
>
> I haven't yet seen a system of socialized medicine that I like.   
> Long waits, levels of bureaucracy to get an appointment, no thanks.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Wylie Bean" <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:29:24
> To: <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>; Ian Duff<iduff at comcast.net>; <s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
> >; <djdawson2 at aol.com>
> Cc: <airbil at gmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
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> Aside from national defense (as called for in the Constitution) I'd  
> venture to guess not much, including government education....
> Wylie Bean
> TheRingmeister at triad.rr.com
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> 91 90q20v
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com
>
> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:20:49
> To: <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>; Ian Duff<iduff at comcast.net>; <s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
> >; <djdawson2 at aol.com>
> Cc: <airbil at gmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
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> Give me one of example of the government "doing it better" than the  
> private sector & I'll believe you.
>
> From what I've seen so far, I have a healthy sense of skepticism.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Wylie Bean" <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:25:27
> To: <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>; Ian Duff<iduff at comcast.net>; <s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
> >; <djdawson2 at aol.com>
> Cc: <airbil at gmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>
>
> Sorry Pizzo, you didn't earn your "brown shirt" this morning...
> But please, keep trying.  One day you'll realize that the government  
> can, and will, just do it better.....
>
>
>
>
> Wylie Bean
> TheRingmeister at triad.rr.com
> 90 cq
> 91 90q20v
> 92 UrS4
> 08 Q7 3.6
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com
>
> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:09:42
> To: Ian Duff<iduff at comcast.net>; <s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com>; <djdawson2 at aol.com 
> >
> Cc: <airbil at gmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>
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> What work in MA won't necessarily work nationwide.  What is being  
> proposed now is turning the current competitive free market system  
> into a single payer system while the MA system simply penalizes  
> those that do not have coverage.  All existing plans will not be  
> able to add any new members once the new system is integrated.  This  
> doesn't even touch upon the simple fact that we, as a nation, simply  
> can not afford any additional taxation if the economy is to come out  
> of this recession. Putting the onus on employers to pay for  
> healthcare will only lead to more layoffs in addition to putting a  
> lot of people on the private insurer benefits side completely out of  
> work.
>
> While it would be nice, we really can't afford to do it without  
> increasing taxes, which will hinder any ability we had to get out of  
> the current mess we're in.  If I had 20 employees with an overall  
> payroll cost of 2MM & I now have to provide healthcare to all  
> employees, I am either going to reduce the number of employees or  
> reduce profit.
>
> That's an easy decision.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Duff <iduff at comcast.net>
>
> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:28:14
> To: <djdawson2 at aol.com>
> Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>; <airbil at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
>
>
> It is already free for the millions of uninsured. That's why it's so
> expensive for the rest of us, because we have to pay, right now, every
> day, for the existing "free" care. Let's get some fiscal
> responsibility, and eliminate this "free" care, and start paying, out
> in the open, for it. What we have in Massachusetts works, and it is
> certainly not free. Massachusetts, certainly one of the most liberal
> states in the country, looks the most fiscally responsible when it
> comes to paying for health care.
>
> Best regards, Meilleures salutations, 此致敬礼, Mit freundlichen
> Grüßen,
>   Con i migliori saluti, مع أطيب التحيات, Cordiales
> saludos, के साथ सबसे अच्छा संबंध
> है,
>   A mais melhor consideraçāo, によろしく
>
> -Ian.
>
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> On 25 Jul, 2009, at 01:18, djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:
>
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>> I'm afraid I'm distraught as well.? Think health care is expensive
>> now?? Just wait 'til it's "free."
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Kase <dkase at dorma-usa.com>
>> To: airbil <airbil at gmail.com>; s-car-list at audifans.com
>> Sent: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 9:23 pm
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
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>> I will take the flaming - I asked for it.
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>> Will this car be crushed?  I think so.  What a shame.
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>> This is so wrong on so many levels.  I'm one of those conservative
>> nut jobs.
>>
>> No offense to Bob, just the opportunity offered to him.
>>
>> Kase
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: airbil [mailto:airbil at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Fri 7/24/2009 11:17 PM
>> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
>> Cc: David Kase
>> Subject: [s-cars] Libs are even hacking into our little haven
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>> Dave,Dave,Dave,
>> You've got some stinkin' thinkin' goin' on there.
>> Are you complaining about "the man" taking money from you to give to
>> Bob Smith to induce him to dump a car he otherwise might have  
>> kept?...
>> So he will buy a new car from Govt Motors?
>> Or, are you complaining about Bob selling his soul for $4500 stolen
>> from his fellow countrymen?
>> Either way, resistance is futile.
>> Had you had the opportunity, you may have decided to take your dough
>> and decide for yourself what to do with it.
>> Dave, Dave, Dave.
>> It's well known that you would just blow it on go fast stupidness and
>> possibly a bommaking biz... or something that actually helps the
>> economy.
>> Bill~Quixote~M
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