[s-cars] Tires, what else.

Mon Mar 16 17:49:06 PDT 2009

The Nitto NT-01R is a DOT-R compound and not suitable for street use- read
treadwear of 100. The NT-05 is a different story.

BTW, read SCCAforums about the performance of the Dunlop Z1 Star Spec vs. BS
RE-01R- the -01R wins. Faster all around. GRM is not the be-all end-all,
although their testing is a lot more scientific. However the results from
last year show that the BS is a better tire for street tire classes.

I can't say firsthand about the Dunlop, but I do have a lot of seat time
with the -01R and the Z1 Star Spec was not even around when I bought my
tires.

The tires to watch are:
BS RE-11
Nitto NT-05
Toyo R1R
Hankook RS3
Kumho XS
Yokohama AD-08

The BS, Nitto, Kook and Yoko were not even available last year.

Taka

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:

> Go to Grassroots Motorsports website and search for the available back
> issues. They do a comparo of the BS RE01R (now superceded by the RE11) the
> Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec (similar performance but a bit harsher and a
> quicker breakaway to the RE01R, but notably less expensive) and the once
> king Falken RT615. The magazine is eagerly awaiting to test the new Nitto
> (and yes, the NT01 DOT-R is competitive to the other big names, and Nitto
> really wants in on the street tire class circuit so most expect it will do
> very well) but there may be some preliminary comments.
>
> If cost really is an issue, you may want to consider the Dunlops, which
> seem to be a compromise between the cost/noise/ride of RT615 (in actual
> track performance, many consider it equal to the old RE01R for those whom
> like "loose" handling, times bear this out) and the performance of the old
> RE01R.
>
> LL - NY
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Mark Strangways <strangconst at rogers.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Taka,
>>
>> First off, thanks for the uber fast reply.
>> I must say, the Z started WAY better than my S4 did during the Jan / Feb
>> hell freeze over we had, especially after sitting for a few months under a
>> cover with out any attention. My S4 would have easily incurred a several
>> hundred dollar start up bill.
>> The fittment is basically stock 225 up front 255 in the back 18" rims, as
>> the way the economy is going the pot caverns up here will not be filled in
>> until prolly August, 2012.
>> I think I will always come back to the german Auto side once I can find my
>> P car, which might be looking better and better every day.
>>
>> The tires are for street, and track use. I had contemplated some mag. rims
>> and r compounds but I don't track enough. Maybe next year. I do want very
>> sticky tires, and I would rather pay a hundred or 2 more now then buy some
>> medicore crap. I loved my Yok's, but not sure what the best of them are
>> anymore. Used to be a BS fan, could see a set of them.
>>
>> What do you think is the best of the comprimise, I prolly will only do
>> 5000 miles on the car and track once or twice this year.
>> The tire should heat fast and easily, as I tend not to track in the hot
>> summer, but rather in fall. No idea why, justthe way it tends to always
>> happen.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mark
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Taka Mizutani
>>  To: Mark Strangways
>>  Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
>>  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:46 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [s-cars] Tires, what else.
>>
>>
>>  Mark-
>>  Yes, I've used them- on my Miata, in 205/50R15.
>>
>>  Pros- cheap, pretty good grip.
>>  Cons- longevity (lasted all of 2 yrs. and 25k miles on a light car), wet
>> performance past 1/2 treadwear (then hydroplaning becomes an issue), noise
>> past 1/2 treadwear (tires become loud like mud terrain tires on a 4x4 truck)
>>
>>  I would look at these tires for your 350Z:
>>
>>  Bridgestone RE-11 (not the 01-R, but the latest tire from Bridgestone,
>> supposed to be even better)
>>  Nitto NT-05 (yeah, I know, Nitto isn't the best name out there, but these
>> are supposed to be quite good and the -01 is a decent track tire)
>>
>>  This is purely for street use, right? BTW, the my current BS RE-01R are a
>> league better than the Falkens- quieter, better dry and wet grip, better
>> longevity- all coming from a narrower tire that puts down less tread width-
>> 195 vs. 205.
>>
>>  I'm getting RE-11s for my next set. I'm probably going to get Kumho XS
>> for the Vette, because BS doesn't make the right sizes in RE-11 or -01R, I'm
>> not going to downgrade to RE-050 and the Michelins are probably going to be
>> too cushy for the Vette, even though they're perfect for the V70R and other
>> sports sedans and I don't have the $$$$ to run Pilot Sport Cup on the street
>> like the GT-3 guys.
>>
>>  Also, I imagine you're running stock sizes, right? Not some crazy fitment
>> with dished JDM wheels- not going to convert you to the Eastern side, are
>> we?
>>  :-)
>>
>>  Taka
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Mark Strangways <
>> strangconst at rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Noted Tire Guru's,
>>
>>       Not to start a 4Meg thread on tires or anything, but need some
>> feedback on Falken RT615 tires.
>>    Not for the Audi, but for a 350Z (yeah yeah, I know waste of money).
>>
>>    Anyone used these in the past ?
>>    Any recomendations as to the pro's / con's etc.?
>>
>>    Thanks
>>
>>    Mark
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