[s-cars] Chip upgrades

Thu Mar 19 11:41:06 PDT 2009

Quoted from:

http://motortrend.automotive.com/39520/112-0308-2004-volvo-v70-r/index.html

Everyone is following BMW
M<http://www.automotive.com/used-cars/11/bmw/m/index.html>,
Ford <http://www.automotive.com/new-cars/01/ford/index.html> SVT, and
Mercedes-Benz<http://www.automotive.com/new-cars/01/mercedes-benz/index.html>AMG
into the factory-offered performance-model game.
Volvo <http://www.automotive.com/new-cars/01/volvo/index.html> is doing the
same with its R Line: the
S60<http://www.automotive.com/2009/09/volvo/s60/index.html>R sedan and
V70 <http://www.automotive.com/2009/09/volvo/v70/index.html> R sport wagon.
The approach is similar to that of other manufacturers: Upgrade engine,
handling, and braking performance in well-balanced amounts; add luxury
accessories; make it look sporty inside and out; and sell in limited enough
quantity to ensure an element of exclusivity.

Volvo has reworked its inline-five-cylinder engine by adding a twin-intercooled
KKK turbo, revised engine-management and exhaust systems, and other tweaks.
The result is an impressive 300 horsepower from 2.5 liters. Take your choice
between a five-speed Geartronic automatic or six-speed manual transmission.
R Line Volvos are equipped with standard full-time all-wheel drive,
employing a Haldex differential to monitor traction and distribute power
front to rear. Besides aggressive 18-inch performance rolling stock, the
chassis benefits from driver-adjustable damping (Comfort, Sport, and
Advanced settings) and Brembo brakes. Dynamic Stability Traction Control,
which is driver-defeatable, and ABS are standard.

Quoted from:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/luxury_sedans/volvo_s60r_v70r_first_drive_review+t-tech_and_driving_impression+page-2.html

To make the R, Volvo did thorough rework on the cast-aluminum DOHC 20-valve,
2.5-liter turbocharged in-line five that is the 208-hp base engine of the
new XC90 sport-ute. "To get 300 horsepower out of 2.5 liters, you need a lot
of air," says Lars Johansson, engine project leader. So Volvo swapped the
XC90's low-pressure Mitsubishi turbo for a larger KKK unit with peak boost
doubled to 15.2 psi. The air flows in a lower-restriction cleaner down
through the turbocharger and two intercoolers and then across the top of the
engine in a large hydroformed aluminum pipe. Reground camshafts with higher
lift and longer-duration lobes (and variable valve timing on both shafts)
usher it into the cylinders, where the reinforced pistons, wrist pins, and
connecting rods await.

Do I need to prove this further?

Taka

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike-
> Sorry to be abrasive about this, but you're plain wrong. My V70 is a 2004
> and it definitely has a KKK turbo.
>
> If you'd like, I'll take photos next time I can do so.
>
> I'm not talking about LPTs or T5s.
>
> Taka
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Michael Lardizabal <
> mikellardizabal at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Taka-
>>
>> Having owned a few V70R's.........they're all Mitsu turbo's.
>>
>> The LPT models used 14 or 15g's , the T5's got either 16 or 18T's
>> depending on if its a P1 or P2 car...and the venerable v70R's got 19T's. All
>> configs are internal wastegate style turbo's.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Chip upgrades
>> > To: "Scott Justusson" <qshipq at aol.com>
>> > Cc: S-CAR-List at audifans.com
>> > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 11:08 AM
>> > Scott-
>> > V70R uses a KKK turbo, not a Mitsubishi.
>> >
>> > The low pressure cars use a Mitsubishi.
>> >
>> > Taka
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Scott Justusson
>> > <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>> > > [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of
>> > Taka Mizutani
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:23 PM
>> > > To: S-CAR-List at audifans.com
>> > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Chip upgrades
>> > >
>> > > >Thanks for chiming in, Scott- you're the man
>> > when it comes to AAN
>> > > stuff.
>> > > >I thought that the MTM chipset was optimized for
>> > US 95 octane (R+M/2).
>> > > My
>> > > >mistake.
>> > >
>> > > Well, you posted that MTM chipset was for 98 RON
>> > (EURO).  That's my
>> > > understanding as well.  My point is that's 93RON
>> > (US)
>> > >
>> > > >Won't you run into driveability issues if you
>> > increase injector size
>> > > w/o
>> > > >altering the fuel maps? I'd be
>> > > >concerned about idling and emissions.
>> > >
>> > > As I posted earlier, the RS2 injector has a better
>> > resolution and
>> > > atomization than the AAN injector.  I haven't put
>> > those injectors in a
>> > > stock Motronic, but have several running with the
>> > Stage I> k24 equipped
>> > > AAN motors, that routinely pass emissions.
>> > >
>> > > >What about swapping N75 valves from later cars?
>> > Good, bad or no change?
>> > >
>> > > Got into a healthy discussion with Nate at 034
>> > regarding the N75 valve.
>> > > Yes, swapping valves makes a difference.
>> > >
>> > > >Personally, I hate the heat soak from running that
>> > much boost with a
>> > > small
>> > > >turbo- BTDT twice. The RS2 turbo
>> > > >is a nice compromise that gives you a ton more
>> > power without working
>> > > the
>> > > >turbo too hard.
>> > >
>> > > Depends on what you want it to do.  I personally like
>> > the k24 for
>> > > everything it does, torque rules the planet, not much
>> > will beat that
>> > > turbo for that purpose.  The heat soak comes from
>> > running on track or
>> > > long efforts at WOT.  For street driving, the k24 is
>> > tough to beat, but
>> > > it can only put down 280 continuous hp.  The RS2 and
>> > their copies (034
>> > > 2871/3071) are good turbos for those tracking their
>> > cars and/or want
>> > > more continuous horsepower.
>> > >
>> > > >Any idea what the V70R turbo specs are like? No
>> > one seems to know on
>> > > the
>> > > >Volvo side- with 2.5L I-5, the engine
>> > > >is awfully close to the Audi and the turbo
>> > response is laggier than a
>> > > K24 >on
>> > > >an AAN but pulls longer and harder
>> > > >than the K24 on the top end- 80-130 is really,
>> > really nice.
>> > >
>> > > I've driven the EVOLVE chip/downpipe/exhaust
>> > version of the v70R and I
>> > > like it too.  350hp/400torque chipped with a large
>> > displacement engine
>> > > makes me think Audi should have done a 2.5L from the
>> > factory.  I don't
>> > > have any experience with the Mitsubishi turbo, but
>> > think that a big
>> > > project.  I also suspect that it's the RS2 of
>> > Volvo.  A 2871/3071 turbo
>> > > seems to have more potential for the AAN motor.
>> > >
>> > > >If the V70R KKK has a similar bolt pattern or
>> > orientation, that would
>> > > be a
>> > > >nice source for a bigger blower- just recently
>> > > >out of production, much easier probably to find
>> > than an RS2 w/o going
>> > > to a
>> > > >Garrett/KKK hybrid.
>> > >
>> > > The mitsus don't have a similar bolt pattern, and
>> > I wasn't under the
>> > > impression that turbo was easy to find.
>> > >
>> > > HTH and my .02
>> > >
>> > > Scott J
>> > >
>> > >
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