[s-cars] S6 and Eibach lowering kit

Fri Mar 27 07:41:12 PDT 2009

I have been running the Eibachs and Koni yellow shock set up for about
3 years now.  I am not positive of the number but have the box in the
garage so maybe its on there, if not I am taking it off the road in
May to go over a lot of things and will look on the springs then as
this topic of discussion has always interested me.  N.A. Eibachs #'s
are an interesting exercise in confusion even though I have read all
the stuff at Elektro.. and more.

The ride height is really good but a hellavu lot lower than stock when
you start talking driving in snow.  It makes the car look sooo much
better going down the road and the handling does improve dramatically.
 One thing with the Konis is that you cannot get a spacer on them as
you can a Bilstein.  The rear of the car sits about 2mm lower than the
front, this is not a specific measurement on my part but what I am
trying to say is that the rear just has the slightest hint its a tad
lower than the front from some angles.

I feel the rear springs in the Eibach kit are way too soft, or maybe
its a combination of a short spring and the Koni (which does not have
a pressure rebound like the Bilstein).  My load capacity went way
down.  In fact I cannot carry two decent sized humans in the back
without rubbing my tires. (255 I know..wont do it again)

Without knowing my kits part # you cannot draw a comparison but if I
were to do it again I would either go with Bilstein sports.

John

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Patrick Moores <pfm2316 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> No, good point, I neglected to state that I plan on purchasing the Igor modded camber plates. Please anyone, if you're selling your Igor mods or know someone who makes a
> good one cheaper than 2Bennett, contact me with your suggestions.
>
> thanks,
> Patrick
>
> --- On Fri, 3/27/09, Michael Lardizabal <mikellardizabal at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Michael Lardizabal <mikellardizabal at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] S6 and Eibach lowering kit
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com, pfm2316 at yahoo.com
> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 8:37 AM
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> Patrick-
>
> Bilstein Sports and your best bet w/ the Eibach kit.
>
> The HD don't have enough travel and will blow out pretty fast. Plenty of threads out there  from guys that have gone that route.
>
> Koni adjustables are awesome,but I think you need to do something different for them to work in the front, maybe someone can chime in on that.
>
> Do you have camber plates that have been modified using the Igor templates ? or 2Bennett
> Gen3 adjustables ?  you'll need either one to align the front.
>
> I live in upstate NY where its a bit of a snow zone. Our roads can be pretty crappy as well. After having modded 2 urs4's I can tell you that once you lower them they become rather agile but the ride is stiff, especially w/ 18's .
>
> PS- while you're in there....get all the bushings, arms, ball joints , etc inspected. You want all that fresh.
>
> --- On Fri, 3/27/09, pfm2316 at yahoo.com <pfm2316 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: pfm2316 at yahoo.com <pfm2316 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [s-cars] S6 and Eibach lowering kit
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 9:05 AM
>
> Hello all, stuck here in Milwaukee enjoying owning this car with whats left of
> the winter
> (8" of snow expected tomorrow night). I'm running the stock Avus
> 16" wheels with new (11/08) Blizzak REVO 1s and plan to leave them as a
> dedicated set for winters.
> I'm planning to change over to 18" 9 spoke Audi replicas with General
> UHP rubber but wanted to lower it to enhance the appearance of the plus 2
> conversion. I was lucky enough to locate the set of Eibach springs with the part
> numbers that this website indicates require no maching or
>  spacers:
> http://www.elektro.com/~audi/eibach/
> this site states
> ".....1529.140 Kit combination three: p/n 1527.001 F, 1516.002 R
> With the currently provided North American kit (combination three), you should
> get a level ride with Bilstein Sport shocks. This should not require any
> machining or spacers on a UrS4/S6 sedan. I can't speak to Avant's."
>
> it also states
> "......Sedan 4WD (Quattro) 1991 - 1997 2.3, 2.6, 2.8, 2.5 TDI, S4, S6
>         Pro-Kit 1528.140 - p/n 1527.001 F, 1516.002 R "
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I now own a set of 1528.140 with spring part numbers
>         1527001VA & 1516002HA verified by the seller
>
> Sorry for the wandering prelude.....my question to you is this. With the spring
> package
> I describe......is it
>  imperative that I change shocks from whatever is on my
> car now.
> Sorry, don't know whats on my car now as I write this but believe it to be
> stock or equal
> as about 99% of the car appears to be stock everywhere. I've always read
> the discussions
> regarding Bilstein "sports" or "HD" but don't get the
> impression that there is one clear
> preferred combination......but I don't believe I've ever read any
> discussion that doesn't
> require a shock change.....is it required for me to get new shocks - Bilstein?
> - when I
> proceed to lower my car next month with the Eibach package - (sidebar: guy that
> sold
> me the spring kit stated he used to work for Bilstein and said he would instead
> recommend that I go with a Koni set that he would choose for me when I was ready
> to make my change - anyone have a comment or advice on Koni instead of
> Bilstein). I can tell you that my ideal ride choice would lean toward a
>  softer
> ride sacrificing flat cornering as the
> torn-up-potholed-poorly-repaired-and-patched Milwaukee roads don't do a
> sportier setup any favors at all.
> I especially look forward to hearing from any of you living in the snow belt to
> comment on your lowered car's behaviour in the snow.....any different than
> stock ride height?
> Thanks in advance so much for all the input you all provide as it keeps me
> excited about
> my car and will keep it on the road for many years to come.....it took me 13
> years to get this car and I plan to enjoy it through all these Milwaukee
> seasons, there is nothing like
> the look on my passenger's face as the power of this sleeper allows me to
> point and shoot
> at whatever traffic slot I want on the freeways or when I can pull ten car
> lengths on Any sort of traffic from a red light with more than eight inches of
> snow on the roads, that kicks ass.
>
> regards, Patrick
> 1995
>  S6
> 1985 Mercedes 2.3-16V
>
>
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