[s-cars] RS6
Bruce Mendel
brucem105 at comcast.net
Thu May 28 05:50:41 PDT 2009
Oh, and they do have DRC, which is a flawes system by design.
But Audi just stepped up and is cutting checks to people that have paid to
get the system repaired or replaced with coil-overs.
That applies more to non-warranty RS6 owners, but they have had their
supplier revise the parts so supposedly as they now repair the DRC system
with new parts, it will stay "fixed".
Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Pizzimenti" <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
To: <hoog23 at aol.com>
Cc: <airbil at gmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] RS6
>I don't think the RS4's have DRC, but there are definitely deals to be had
> out there. You can get a CPO for about 50 or so.
>
> I remember an orange one that wasn't selling at some dealer in NJ that
> ended
> up going for low 40's about 6 months ago.
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:25 AM, <hoog23 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> With all of this talk about RS6's well what about RS4's on the used car
>> market? I know that they haven't dropped like rocks yet.
>>
>> And no turbos but they still have drc issues, right?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com>
>> To: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>; Joe Pizzimenti <
>> joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
>> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com; airbil <airbil at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wed, 27 May 2009 4:05 pm
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] RS6
>>
>> not to mention a lot cheaper. you can buy an LS7 crate engine, complete
>> from
>> intake to oil pan, for $13k, and it'll make 500 hp right out of the box.
>> don't
>> let the word "pushrod" fool you - this is a sophisticated engine, with
>> titanium
>> connecting rods and intake valves, dry sump, sodium-filled exhaust
>> valves, etc.
>>
>>
>> all you have to do is eyeball an LS7 and a typical DOHC V8 or V10 (say
>> the
>> engine from an E39 or E60 M5) to see just how much more compact the LS7
>> is. the
>> LS7 crate engine, with water pump, coils, engine mount brackets, Z06
>> exhaust
>> manifolds, and clutch/flywheel, weighs 444 lbs. that's impressive for
>> the kind
>> of power it produces.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>> To: Joe Pizzimenti <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
>> Cc: airbil <airbil at gmail.com>; s-car-list at audifans.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:43:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] RS6
>>
>> Well, maybe not quite- the C6 RS6 has 600hp, although it's not hard with
>> forced induction to make more with an LSx engine- stock ZR1 engine is
>> 638hp
>> and building an LS3 with a blower can easily match that- twin turbo
>> conversion can do over 1000hp without any problem.
>>
>> It's much easier to twin-turbo the Ultima with the "standard" engine
>> rather
>> than doing a retarded engine swap. LSx series engines are probably some
>> of
>> the most size-efficient engines for their power output and weight. Heck,
>> I
>> can fit an LSx into my Miata, which I'd like to do.
>>
>> Taka
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Joe Pizzimenti
>> <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > Not to mention less powerful, all else being equal.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Taka Mizutani
>> > <t44tqtro at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> You're going to put a DOHC V-10 TT into a car that's designed for a
>> >> LSx
>> >> series engine?
>> >>
>> >> Good luck- that engine is a lot longer and bulkier.
>> >>
>> >> Taka
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Mike Fitton <rfitton at vt.edu> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Damn, someone already did the first swap. I really was hoping to be
>> >> > the
>> >> > first one, at least in the US, with such a package. No doubt
>> >> > Dahlback
>> >> > or the like have attached that engine longitudinally to a DSG in a
>> >> > Locost or some such madness by now. But I mean realistically
>> >> > speaking
>> >> > for us normal (loosely...) folks, that would be breaking some new
>> >> > ground
>> >> > I think. I think about SVXs and how an otherwise $2500 example is
>> >> > worth
>> >> > more like $6500 if it has a well-executed stick conversion in place.
>> >> > Different market, different buyers, but same basic idea. Two basic
>> >> > circumstances at work for both cars. Only available in automatic.
>> >> > Automatic known for catastrophic and consistent failure. Otherwise
>> >> > very
>> >> > desirable car (in this beholder's eye).
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway, just started a business, quit my day job, and am very likely
>> >> > to
>> >> > start a second business in the next few months. And off-chance I
>> >> > just
>> >> > got talked into moving out to Alaska next summer. So finances are
>> >> > going
>> >> > to be wildly unstable for a while and a needy RS6 likely isn't a
>> >> > smart
>> >> > move in the near term. Still though, kudos to the guys that did it
>> >> > first, and I wish it could have been me.
>> >> >
>> >> > How about this? My new goal is to be the first guy to install der
>> >> > neu
>> >> > RS6 engine in an Ultima. It'll be a while; you heard it here first.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Cheers!
>> >> > Mike
>> >> >
>> >> > airbil wrote:
>> >> > > Mike edumicated:
>> >> > > " How many twin turbo V8s were ever made in
>> >> > > anything
>> >> > > approaching mass
>> >> > > production? Let's make a list...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 288 GTO ("mass" production)
>> >> > > F40 (same)
>> >> > > V8 Esprits "
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Mike et. al.,
>> >> > > Back at you with; wow, maybe yuze college guys do know stuff.
>> >> > > These are points well taken. V8 tt's ? Right. How many of
>> >> > > those
>> >> > > are there from the factory?
>> >> > > WRT mtce. issues, again, great points! You can't have a so called
>> >> > > super car and think it should have the longevity of a Honda.
>> >> > > I think the RS2 is, or was a supercar and constantly console
>> >> > > myself with the line of thought to justify ubiquitous tinkering,
>> >> > > because I know when it's right, oh momma, etc. and so on. Just
>> >> > > today driving home seeking redline, windows down, lady gaga
>> >> > > love game (what is a disco stick?) uhmm, a little loud... I was
>> >> > > traffic light interviewed window to window by some new MB driving
>> >> > > guy. Usual line of questioning, i.e. "what is that?" S6 with RS2
>> >> > > motor but how many in the rest of the galaxy know anything about
>> >> > > that?
>> >> > > WRT trans issues, I have the good fortune to live literally 5
>> >> > > minutes
>> >> > > away from the "Tozo D2 Tranny Fixit Shop."
>> >> > > He can fix these in his sleep... and oh, AFAIK, has also done the
>> >> > > only auto to six speed lobotomy that I know of.
>> >> > > So, okay then, let's add der RS6 to der watch list and see if
>> >> > > planets
>> >> > > align.
>> >> > > Bill~experimental post layout~M
>> >> > > ps still wish we had a shot at der neu RS6
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> http://news.autocarpoint.co.nz/portals/0/ACP_MediaGallery/34571/10449_p.jpg
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
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