[s-cars] Re; Headliner repair

[Kevin Barnett]

Hi Tom:

thanks.  The windshield removal was suggested by the upolstry and trim shop that gave memy estimate, and frankly, was my concern about why that needed to be done.   This list has provided has provided the necessary information that it does not have to be done to get the headliner out.

As the seats are easy / peasy to get out, I will do that to give me extra work room.

Best regards,
Kevin




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From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
To: Kevin Barnett <bluevr6 at yahoo.com>
Cc: Scarlist <s-car-list at audifans.com>; mike claire <mike.claire at gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:26:43 PM
Subject: Re: Re;[s-cars] Headliner repair

Whoa, Kevin. 

I don't get this continued remarks about the window or windshield?  The headliner board comes out the door, not the windshield opening.  There is no reason to remove the windshield glass.  If you don't 
remove the seats, remove the headrests - front and rear, and the board will easily rotate to exit through the rear door.   Well, not the easiest thing to maneuver by yourself.  : - ), but I assume you now have 
an assist from one who has done this at least once.  It sounds like it should go well.

Tom


On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Kevin Barnett wrote:

Hi Tom and all:
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>Nope.  No chance that I would try to R&R the window muself.  Not in my skill set.
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>Turns out, its easy / peasy to take front seats out....  pleanty of manuvering room there.
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>An s-lister has a headliner out of his car, and looks like we can work something out to get that headliner recovered, and thet do the switcharoo in my garage so that I will not loose use of my car....  Thanks J-man....
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>Thanks all for sharing.
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From: Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net>
>To: Scarlist <s-car-list at audifans.com>; Kevin Barnett <bluevr6 at yahoo.com>
>Cc: mike claire <mike.claire at gmail.com>
>Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 11:21:15 AM
>Subject: Re;[s-cars] Headliner repair
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>Well then, now that we have all the contract terms, Let's retract that "good
>deal" comment and insert a "no deal" recommendation, Kevin.  I don't 
>think this is a DIY job.  Before you take this on, I recommend you go to a 
>salvage yard that will let you practice on a vehicle that has no interior 
>parts of value, but is essentially all there.  I see lots of trashed A6 and 
>100 models that would fit this requirement go to the crusher.  If you do so
>good, maybe buy that board to install and cut down the OOC time and 
>concern about your board.  Then $150 is too much to just torch off the 
>old foam, spray with adhesive and lay on new material.  
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>I had an identical headliner done in Knoxville about 8 years ago for $125.
>I approved the material choice when scheduling the job.  The owners two
>adult kids did the job along with a Cadillac at the same time - finished both
>in the same afternoon with professional results.  I offered some tips on how
>the Audi was put together, but they said "not necessary, we do over 100 of
>these a year on every make of car".  I tipped them $20 each when I picked 
>up the car since the closest estimate I had over the phone was $400, but 
>"I can't get to it now".  They  said it was just a routine everyday job - no big 
>deal at all. 
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>Oh, I forgot that you can't get here from Ashville since I-40 is closed for 
>several months because of the rockslide. : - (
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>I was told this was a common malady of southern cars due to heat and
>humidity, and happened  to fairly new cars with sunroofs at that time.
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>That is the kind of shop you want - one that specializes in headliners.
>There are good local shops that do a great job on convertible tops, 
>and shops that do total custom interiors and another does mostly 
>custom Katskin seat coverings, but they would all farm out a head-
>liner job or just not take it in.  And, I would not let this headliner shop
>touch anything else.
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>There is some suede headliner material available that is supposed to be
>high quality that is not expensive - $10/yd for regular material and $15
>something for the suede.  : - )   The Alcantara and Ultrasuede upholstery
>material for seats is over $100/yd.  You might as well trick things out while 
>doing it.
>http://www.miamicorp.com
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>Mike, most upholstery suppliers have both backed and unbacked 
>versions of the same material to eliminate the puffy look on door panels
>and trim where a hard finish is best.
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>Tom
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