[s-cars] 16' Avus wheels and ECS Stage 3

smarinello at entouch.net smarinello at entouch.net
Wed Sep 16 11:05:55 PDT 2009


Taka,

Sorry...my brain was skipping around.  The brake upgrades I'm talking about are 
offered for the B7 A4's.  I just wondered how you felt about the path taken, with 
stock, real stock, calipers, modified brackets and larger diameter rotors.  NOt 
sure there would be an option for the ur-S-cars, but the principal is interesting 
and had been discussed in years past.

http://stasisengineering.com/Category_Detail.aspx?id=8&VID=205&PID=183

Steve

On Wed Sep 16 12:44 , Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> sent:

>Steve-
>I don't know- the greater brake torque of the larger rotor would help. I have 
not researched this stuff any further than circa 2002 or 2003 because I have not 
had my 200 since late 2004.
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>I think that larger rear rotors is a waste of money- they don't do that much of 
the braking as it is.
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>When you say stock caliper, I take that to mean a 993tt caliper with a larger 
rotor (larger than the 322mm stock rotors, right?).
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>Do you really need that much larger of a brake rotor? I would look at improving 
traction before doing that unless you're fading Big Reds with race pads and 
fluid.
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>Taka
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>On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Steve Marinello <smarinello at entouch.net> wrote:
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>Taka,
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>I would tend to agree.  Noticeable difference between the 993tt set up on
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>the avant and the only Boxster set up I drove a number of years ago.
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>What do you think of the Stasis brake kits that use revised brackets and
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>stock calipers to allow larger rotors?  They have them for front and back.
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>A greater radius yields an increase in braking power, even with stock
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>caliper and pad size, but somewhat greater swept area.
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>Steve
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>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
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>Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:05 AM
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>To: LL - NY
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>Cc: J3; s-car-list at audifans.com
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>Subject: Re: [s-cars] 16" Avus wheels and ECS Stage 3
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>You guys are making way too much hay about this- do a stud conversion and
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>get some 5mm hubcentric spacers from H&R- problem solved.
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>Getting a Boxster caliper and appropriately sized rotor is not going to
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>improve your braking significantly, if at all- the pedal feel will improve
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>over a sliding caliper brake setup, but your stopping power is going to be
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>significantly less. I've driven UrS cars with the Boxster setup- not
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>impressive at all. My 200q with 320mm rotors and 996 calipers was much, much
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>better, as are the 993tt setups that I've driven on an UrS.
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>Taka
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>On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:28 PM, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I have the ECS Stage 3 kit and the winter set up is on the 6 spoke Avus'.
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>> There is no need for H+R spacers, as axial clearance isn't that tight. *
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>> Radial* clearance at the beveled ends of the calipers IS credit card
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>> thickness tight, however. IF gravel or anything got caught between the
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>> wheel
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>> and caliper it won't be pretty. If you must winter, the slightly smaller
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>> diameter A8 rotor (several Stage II kits use 'em) might provide the extra
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>> peace of mind. I haven't tried the Stage 2 kits, but I'd venture a guess
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>in
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>> street driving there'd be little appreciable difference in performance
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>with
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>> ANY gain in caliper clearance being worth the trade-off.
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>> Just my $0.02
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>> LL - NY
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>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:50 AM, J3 <jay003 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > Hello,
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>> > I am considering purchasing the ECS Stage 3 brake kit for my 95.5 S6. My
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>> > stock set up is ready for new rotors and pads so I wanted to get some
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>> > better
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>> > braking.
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>> > My snows are the stock 16" Avus 6 spoke wheels. Will I have any problems
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>> > mounting this kit with the stock 16" wheels? I searched the archives and
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>> it
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>> > seems that they will fit as long as the weights are the clip on kind.
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>> >
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>> > Any things else I should know or consider?
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>> >
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>> > Thanks,
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>> > Jay Desmarais
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>> >
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>> > 1995.5 S6
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>> > Burlington, VT
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