[s-cars] Windows

Douglas Landaeta dlandaeta at gmail.com
Mon Aug 2 19:57:51 PDT 2010


Okay, I'm wrong. Maybe I have a switch or a failing relay also. Anything's possible when the outside temperature gauge is reading 107! when I went out for lunch. AC cranks nice and cold inside.

...TN in the summer!

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On Aug 2, 2010, at 9:44 PM, "Bares, Vittorio" <Vittorio.Bares at nuance.com> wrote:

> Thanks Chris - I didn't look far enough in terms of kick plates, but I
> found it.
> 
> 
> 
> Ok, I'm half way there - I jumped the power terminals and low and
> behold, 3 of my switches on the driver's side panel lit up and 3 windows
> worked. I think a pretty good indicator that the relay is toast.
> 
> 
> 
> However, now to get to the switch panel so I can least close my driver's
> side front window - I suspect that 3rd switch is bad or a wire is bad.
> 
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> 
> I'll look on SJm to see if there are instructions for removing the door
> panel - I've broken enough of these things to know that there is a
> sequence and hidden tricks.
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> 
> If anyone has a quick pointer that would be helpful.
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> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> 
> 
> Vittorio -
> 
> From: chris chambers [mailto:fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:55 PM
> To: Bares, Vittorio; Steve Mills
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Windows
> 
> 
> 
> If none of the windows are working it could be the 441 959 257 B relay
> (marked
> 329 on top, and identified as the J139 relay by SJM's site) under the
> driver's side kickpanel.
> 
> 
> 
> Problem is it's an expensive relay, where are you at? Perhaps there is
> somebody close
> 
> to you that will loan you a relay to test.
> 
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> Chris
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> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: "Bares, Vittorio" <Vittorio.Bares at nuance.com>
> To: Steve Mills <s.b.mills at gmail.com>
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 9:28:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Windows
> 
> Thanks guys - I'm in the process of taking the door panel off and
> inspecting-  due to the nature of the failure - all power seems to quit
> to all switches at the same time I'm tending to think it's the power
> window relay - however, I'm really having a hard time finding where that
> is located.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone on the list have diagram or can describe where that puppy is?
> 
> n  I've checked under the hood in the relay panel there - I only found a
> couple of thermal fuses for PW
> 
> n  Nothing labeled under the driver side kick panel
> 
> n  My ETKA says it's on the driver's side POS (8) relay position 1-2
> 
> 
> 
> For now, I think I'll try to put some power to the motors for the open
> windows, at least I'll be able to drive the car to work J
> 
> 
> 
> Vittorio -
> 
> From: Steve Mills [mailto:s.b.mills at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:25 AM
> To: Bares, Vittorio
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Windows
> 
> 
> 
> Have you checked the wiring in the hinge area? It's fairly common for
> one or more wires to fail due to being flexed back and forth too many
> times.Pull the door panel and boot to investigate.
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Bares, Vittorio
> <Vittorio.Bares at nuance.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi there listers - subject is a 1995 S6.
> 
> 
> 
> Power windows have been on-and-off for sometime - typically won't work
> right away, but at some point during my drive they would come on. Most
> recently I discovered that if I simultaneously turned the ignition on
> and pressed  a window button I could get them to work right away - but
> that technique stopped working as well...
> 
> 
> 
> I've now left them in the down position and they haven't wanted to come
> up in the past few days. Time to address the issue.
> 
> 
> 
> I believe this is a power source issue - when they do begin to work, all
> switches work, when they don't none of the switches work.
> 
> 
> 
> Fuse is good.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a relay for the windows?
> 
> Does anyone have an electrical diagram for windows to help me trace this
> down?
> 
> 
> 
> Is this a common issue w/the S6?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Vittorio -
> 
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