[s-cars] Windows

[JC]

Door panel? <snip> oops was whipping out a few steps from memory but just
saw Chris posted a link to the beyotchin' best picto guide ever. nice.
concise. obvious.

Instead I'll add value by passing link to C4 wiring diagrams - they are not
always exactly correct for S car but for the most part close enough and/or
can be figured out... I've been using them for years now and it always gets
me pretty much there.
http://forums.quattroworld.com/a6100/msgs/197.phtml

Lastly BTW agree with the "don't rule out the ignition switch".  If your
windows were working for a while by futzhing with the switch and turning car
on/off again I'd still be putting my over/under money on the switch being
bad. I don't know exactly how it works but weird stuff happens when that
switch starts to go wrong.

---- current ----
1995.5 S6 Avant
2003 E46 M3 Cic
2008 A3 2.0tDSG
---- past lives ----
2006 A4 2.0TQA
1998 A6Q 2.8 PES G2
1989 200TQA SJM
1990 CQ
1997 A4 1.8TQ Wett
1987 4kCSQ

John J. Cunningham
jc at j2c3.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Bares, Vittorio
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:45 AM
> To: chris chambers; Steve Mills
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Windows
>
> Thanks Chris - I didn't look far enough in terms of kick
> plates, but I found it.
>
>
>
> Ok, I'm half way there - I jumped the power terminals and low
> and behold, 3 of my switches on the driver's side panel lit
> up and 3 windows worked. I think a pretty good indicator that
> the relay is toast.
>
>
>
> However, now to get to the switch panel so I can least close
> my driver's side front window - I suspect that 3rd switch is
> bad or a wire is bad.
>
>
>
> I'll look on SJm to see if there are instructions for
> removing the door panel - I've broken enough of these things
> to know that there is a sequence and hidden tricks.
>
>
>
> If anyone has a quick pointer that would be helpful.
>
>
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> Vittorio -
>
> From: chris chambers [mailto:fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:55 PM
> To: Bares, Vittorio; Steve Mills
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Windows
>
>
>
> If none of the windows are working it could be the 441 959
> 257 B relay (marked
> 329 on top, and identified as the J139 relay by SJM's site)
> under the driver's side kickpanel.
>
>
>
> Problem is it's an expensive relay, where are you at? Perhaps
> there is somebody close
>
> to you that will loan you a relay to test.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: "Bares, Vittorio" <Vittorio.Bares at nuance.com>
> To: Steve Mills <s.b.mills at gmail.com>
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 9:28:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Windows
>
> Thanks guys - I'm in the process of taking the door panel off and
> inspecting-  due to the nature of the failure - all power
> seems to quit to all switches at the same time I'm tending to
> think it's the power window relay - however, I'm really
> having a hard time finding where that is located.
>
>
>
> Anyone on the list have diagram or can describe where that puppy is?
>
> n  I've checked under the hood in the relay panel there - I
> only found a couple of thermal fuses for PW
>
> n  Nothing labeled under the driver side kick panel
>
> n  My ETKA says it's on the driver's side POS (8) relay position 1-2
>
>
>
> For now, I think I'll try to put some power to the motors for
> the open windows, at least I'll be able to drive the car to work J
>
>
>
> Vittorio -
>
> From: Steve Mills [mailto:s.b.mills at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:25 AM
> To: Bares, Vittorio
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Windows
>
>
>
> Have you checked the wiring in the hinge area? It's fairly common for
> one or more wires to fail due to being flexed back and forth too many
> times.Pull the door panel and boot to investigate.
>
> Steve
>
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Bares, Vittorio
> <Vittorio.Bares at nuance.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there listers - subject is a 1995 S6.
>
>
>
> Power windows have been on-and-off for sometime - typically won't work
> right away, but at some point during my drive they would come on. Most
> recently I discovered that if I simultaneously turned the ignition on
> and pressed  a window button I could get them to work right away - but
> that technique stopped working as well...
>
>
>
> I've now left them in the down position and they haven't
> wanted to come
> up in the past few days. Time to address the issue.
>
>
>
> I believe this is a power source issue - when they do begin
> to work, all
> switches work, when they don't none of the switches work.
>
>
>
> Fuse is good.
>
>
>
> Is there a relay for the windows?
>
> Does anyone have an electrical diagram for windows to help me
> trace this
> down?
>
>
>
> Is this a common issue w/the S6?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Vittorio -
>
>
>
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