[s-cars] Red light traffic in Illinois

[qshipq at aol.com]

 Right turn on Red Law Illinois
"Steady Lights
Red light – Stop at the marked stop line. If there is not a marked stop line, stop before entering the crosswalk. If there is no crosswalk, stop before entering the intersection. Do not go until the light is green and the intersection is clear.

You may make a right turn at a red light. You also may make a left turn at a red light when turning from a one-way street onto another one-way street that has traffic moving to the left. In both instances, drivers must come to a complete stop and yield the right-of-way to oncoming traffic and pedestrians before turning."  Illinois Secretary of State

New legislation doesn't appear to help Baloney here
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-07-09/news/ct-met-quinn-red-light-cameras-20100709_1_lights-on-traffic-signals-red-light-cameras

Nor does the devious thought of putting on plate covers, as that's a moving (points) violation as of Jan 1 2006.  It's a revenue racket alright, but a well lobbied one it seems...

License Plate Covers
The law previously allowed clear covers only, but was changed January 1st, 2006 to prohibit ANY covers, clear or tinted.  (see below - 625ILCS, 5/12-610.5) 
Sec. 12‑610.5. Registration plate covers.
    (a) In this Section, "registration plate cover" means any tinted, colored, painted, marked, clear, or illuminated object that is designed to:
        (1) cover any of the characters of a motor vehicle's
        
registration plate; or
        (2) distort a recorded image of any of the characters       
of a motor vehicle's registration plate recorded by an automated red light enforcement system as defined in Section 1‑105.5 of this Code or recorded by an automated traffic control system as defined in Section 15 of the Automated Traffic Control Systems in Highway Construction or Maintenance Zones Act.
    (b) It shall be unlawful to operate any motor vehicle that is equipped with registration plate covers.
    (c) A person may not sell or offer for sale a registration plate cover.
    (d) A person may not advertise for the purpose of promoting the sale of registration plate covers.
    (e) A violation of this Section or a similar provision of a local ordinance shall be an offense against laws and ordinances regulating the movement of traffic.
(Source: P.A. 94‑304, eff. 1‑1‑06.)

None of this is new in Illinois.  

SJ

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: qshipq at aol.com
To: airbil at gmail.com
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Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: [s-cars] guilty, not guilty?




 A couple of misconceptions present.  In Illinois, there is no need to 

"Identify" the driver, as this is not a points infraction, this is a revenue 

generator.  Identifying the car is the only requirement, it's up to you to put 

your hand out to whomever was driving (btdt to my daughter and a buddy that 

borrowed my truck).  Bill, the way these sensors work (I'll assume these are not 

the radar type = these are the pad type), they follow the simple timing rule to 

determine speed over two sensors.  This triggers the camera/video, and there ya 

go.  If you can figure out whom gives you your right to due process, you would 

need to provide evidence of a stop (many have been successful proving that the 

stop was somewhere prior or post sensor).  It appears to me (thinking referee 

instant replay review), it's really tough to prove a full stop with your video.  

Illinois Law on Right Turn on Red is clear that you have to establish a 

"complete stop" at the line (see reference on the site I 

 gave you).  I'm sure there is an interpretation of that that can be challenged 

to an extent, but rolling stops usually don't qualify.  The revenuers gotcha 

man.  Your choices are to pay and learn that rolling stops can be 

wallet-challenging.  Or, you can fight this some other way...  The latter seems 

to be a weak choice, as the video is clear, the hockey puck appeared to clear 

the net without interruption or interference.



WRT S-fest, my plans will rotate around the need to transport a daughter back to 

college.



Scott "stops completely" J