[s-cars] RS3 and 2.5 Turbo

[brian hoeft]

Good points, I would suggest the factory considers your second point
highest, regarding its bottom line.

Our cars are front engine but I wasnt considering that in my questioning
which I should have. Longitudinal doesnt HAVE to mean over the front axles..
I was thinking on what I see as being more capable of holding up to high
output and putting it to the ground most effectively.

-Brian





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On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:35 PM, John Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com> wrote:

> What's the point there? Passats, A4's, A6's, and A8's all come FWD.
>
> There are a few reasons to mount the engine the wrong way.
>
> First, you are containing the weight closer to the axle line. In theory you
> want all of the car's weight as near as possible to the center of the
> vehicle. The farther out from that point you go the higher the polar moment
> of inertia which hurts the car's ability to change direction (think of how
> hard it is to rotate a ladder that you are carrying horizontally).
>
> Second, it's much easier, faster, and cheaper to assemble the car in FWD
> trim and no harder in AWD trim. In FWD trim they can load the entire
> driveline on a cradle and plug it in to the car in one easy step. With the
> engine mounted the "right" way it's more tricky since the package isn't
> contained to the engine bay and requires a few other steps.
>
> Finally, design. With the engine in the "right" way the ENTIRE engine must,
> by definition of the brand, be completely forward of the axle line. That
> makes for long overhangs (the wheels not near the ultimate front of the
> vehicle) and a long hood. If you put the engine in sideways now the forward
> most mechanical part is MUCH closer to the axle line, more compact, and
> allows for shortening the front of the car by a good bit.
>
> -Cody (mobile)
>
> On Nov 28, 2010, at 2:55 PM, "tedebearp at yahoo.com" <tedebearp at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, it's in a car that gets sold as an FWD model.
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Nov 28, 2010, at 11:39 AM, brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Regarding that good point, I've been wondering if theres a good
> (ostensible)
> > technical reason for Audi mounting the engine the wrong way [my
> perspective]
> > in the engine bay...
> >
> > If there is, i've not yet gained appreciation for it, however that TT
> > handles incredibly well..  Maybe by the time they come down in price, my
> > eyes will adjust to appreciate their looks.
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Eric Sanborn wrote:
> > I have been eying this engine for a while.  I can't wait for them to be
> > available (and hopefully somewhat plentiful) in the US.  I know the
> > direct
> > injection will make swaps more challenging, but I would love a C5 Avant
> > with
> > a six speed and that engine in it.
> >
> > Its transverse fit might make that a challenge. Would the block where
> > it mates to the transmission bolt right up? You'll also need to re-work
> > the header.
> >
> > --
> > Kent McLean
> > 1999 A4 Avant, V6 Tiptronic
> > 1990 200 Avant mit V8 conversion
> > gone: 1990 V8 w/5-speed and other mods
> > gone: 1991 200 TQA #3, with mods
> > gone: '91 200 TQA x2, '94 100 S Avant, '89 200 TQ "Bad Puppy"
> >
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