[s-cars] Passats

Thu Sep 9 18:55:11 PDT 2010

The car you mention Erik is, in my estimation, a much better choice compared
to the V6, especially if it has a clutch. My friend just found one and good
for him, they are a good find.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Erik Addy <erikaddy at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have a 2004.5 Passat 1.8T 4-Motion wagon.  I don't believe there was such
> an
> animal (1.8T and 4-Mo) in 2003, just 2004.5-2005.
>
>
> I really like it.  Yes, it is slow (not chipped, yet), but it sure feels
> lighter
> and more nimble that the Ur-S.  Less nose heavy, much more sophisticated
> front
> suspention.  The car is essentially a streched B5 A4, so pretty much
> anything
> you can do to one of those, you can do to the Passat.
>
> Erik
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:30:32 -0400
> From: LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] VW Passat 2.8 Experience
> To: AaronT <atay101 at gmail.com>
> Cc: S-Car-List <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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> I can chime in on my experience with my Mom's 2001.5 GLX 4mo Wagon (same
> car, for the most part as an '03 I think some features change,
> otherwise it's another post facelift (still B5) car. 2.8 V6 30V).
>
> Beware, the car is of very low miles (Mom doesn't travel much, just local
> driving) and it's been through a number of hits (one fairly severe) as Mom
> also doesn't drive real well.
>
> Overall, competent vehicle, pleasant enough of a drive. For spirited
> driving
> if you're used to UrS thrust, well, it doesn't have it.  It has perfectly
> adequate pull, but the very act of spirited driving highlights it's one
> biggest flaw, Tiptronic.  In regular driving, it's fine, virtually
> transparent. In spirited driving, it's slow to kickdown (even with manual
> selection) fast to shift up, will not hold at redline and it's got a low
> rev
> stall speed (for the weak low down torque, this works against getting a
> good
> launch, say, like trying to get into heavy fast traffic from a side
> street).
> Due to the pedal interlock, you can't LFB.
>
> Problems (car has less than 30K miles), running wise, essentially none.
> Only
> real problem is the stereo head unit, which has now the standard VAG
> issues,
> (display winks out, first it was the backlight, now when the actual display
> goes out) the only control that works is the power switch on the head unit
> and the steering wheel controls. All other head unit controls go AWOL when
> the display is out. You can sometimes restore the display (thus control) by
> pressing on the face of the unit, but this obviously is not going to last
> forever. The unit is a Typhoon, but doesn't have the CD changer out back.
>
> Car has held up fairly well considering that Mom doesn't really care about
> cars at all, and it's condition at any time kind of shows it. A good
> cleaning would bring everything back (i.e. the materials, inside and out
> hold up well except the exterior brightwork, which is getting the VAG
> "milky" patina) except for the dents that have nothing to do with the car.
> As a DD, it's nicer (I think) and a much better drive than say a similar
> vintage Camry.  Still, it doesn't have quite the same verve as the UrS when
> the roads get interesting. I guess the best word I can think of for it was
> the first one I used...competent. And perhaps more reliable than a C4 car.
> It IS much more dependent on diagnostics and system changes on VAG-COM.
>
> My local friend has a 2003 1.8T 5sp 4mo Wagon (rare!) and the only real
> issues he has had (car has well over 100K miles on it now) has been the
> door
> locks, and brakes (although he has a dirt driveway. Mom's car is garaged).
> BOTH cars suffer from the most irritating remote key controls on the
> planet.
> It's like Forrest Gump's box of choclates. You press a button and ya never
> know if it's gonna work. If it were me, and nothing of value was in the
> car,
> I'd leave the damn thing unlocked...oh, you can't.  The stupid hatch will
> lock anyway. It's like the car's remote and locking functions were designed
> by and for...Americans.
>
> HTH,
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:16 AM, AaronT <atay101 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry folks but another non scar question -
> > Anybody have any direct experience with a 2003 VW passat 4Mo wagon
> (2.8v6)?
> > Still looking for a reasonable replacement for my 95S6Avant....
> > Which by the way has been rather trouble free lately - famous last words.
> > Thanks
> > Aaron
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