[s-cars] Avantissimo light

Wed Feb 9 04:40:52 PST 2011

All pork considered....

4.2 V8 for a track waggie is the way to go.

3071R at the track will need a lot of fancy footwork and IIRC, an AAN is heavier 
than a 4.2 abt,abh,et al.

Love that turbo, but one can grow  a 5 o'clock shadow waiting for boost to hit 
on them.

4.2 will provide on demand power ...and if you get the pig to piglet 
status....she'll drift a weeee bit on the turns with all the TQ.

I once did some country math on how much weight a C4 chassis could shed and I'm 
pretty sure 3500 is an attainable goal.

Just the 2 front seats, and rear child / jumper seat setup in back weigh a 
million lbs...good Lord they over-engineered those .

No carpeting ,custom alu dash, 1 carbon bucket Sparco Evo, no headliner, lexan 
windows where possible ( this can be initiated by revisiting the hotel you 
stayed in where your S6 was parked last year   ) .... fuel cell, and some Alcon 
calipers mit 2B coilovers for the lightest corners...

Also , Marc Swanson can run the 4.2 with VEMS so no worries with ECU's. 

Last year him and I had convos about adding it to my 4.2 V8Q and he estimated 
about 2 weeks to get  the harness fabbed up. A stock 4.2 32v w/~300hp can gain 
30-35hp w/ vems. More if you pop for the JHM Motorsports long tube headers. Huge 
dyno proven gains w/ that setup. I was at a dyno day and saw it for myself.

The only issue I forsee running the V8 is getting the AC to work .   , but we'll 
all chip in and buy you a clip- on fan . 

PS- Possible sacrilege here.......but you can also run it as RWD. There's more 
than a few Finnish dudes running them that way and they don't look unhappy.

Mike

PS2- I think Cory K still has 1 carbon fiber hood left.

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From: bill mahoney <airbil at gmail.com>
To: Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com>
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 10:20:01 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Avantissimo light

V and T et. al.,
These are all great and crazy ideas to collect.  I am hoping this new to me
black pig could be here by Monday.
So, no I haven't even seen it yet and will then make on going assessments of
the situation.
Oddly enough my wife was enquiring just after dinner tonight if I was ever
going tracking again.  Sensing an opportunity, without hesitation I shot
back, "Yes, but I should have a dedicated track car."  She then reminded me
that I have two cars to sell before I add another.  uh oh.
Not to worry though,.. I have five or six daze to find an opening to explain
the logic of the new to me Q car.
And I do remember the Danish? black avant with the cool fender flares of
long ago, mentioned by Vincent.  Who owned that?  His name began with a "J"
I think is all I remember.... but, the tone is set for Audi fender flares
ala S1 /S2.  No rounded flares will make the cut.... if ya gotta go with
flares.
I also recall some MLP babble about ripping everything out of the car,
adding a roll bar, lexan windows, etc.
Some voice says to drop an S8 4.2 in there.  And I do know Gabor, the very
nearby foremost D2vian Drivetrain Dood... not to mention "Torsenboy, " who
is also nearby.
These are all things to ponder, but I'll see whats left of this thing after
shipping.
Keep those cards and letters coming.
Bill~red hoody, black hoody~M
here's two pics.. not a lot to go on but looks ok
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5017/5429417129_497e8efb2b_o.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5430025244_a8ca361008.jpg

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com> wrote:

> That isn't a bad idea.  How light could a UrS4 be if you stripped out
> anything
> that didn't look like a street-legal track car?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Vincent <s.sikss at gmail.com>
> To: bill mahoney <airbil at gmail.com>; s-car-list at audifans.com; Hap Maguire
> <captmagu at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 5:56:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Avantissimo light
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Since you called her by her name... it's Avantissimo _light_, right? So,
> before adding, you should remove! What about ditching everything behind the
> front seats to make it lighter - you have rear seats in the red one anyway,
> even in the M3; who needs 3 rear benches - welding the rear doors and
> making
> her the first Sehrleichtjagtavant (AFAIK), ala Aston Marin
> (
> http://www.astonmartins.com/virage/v8_long_chassis_shooting_brake_roos.htm
> )
> . Of course, this would make BBK, deep rumble 3" exhaust and large hp
> figure
> mandatory to keep up with the lineage, and rolled rear fenders with big
> meaty tires wouldn't hurt (memories of some black S-beast Avant of Northern
> Europe I can't find a link to). The wood roof bars are optional
> http://www.partaj.cz/clanky/aston-martin-dbs-shooting-brake-1970-48.html),
> not sure they would really fit on a Jagtavant. But, all black, with tinted
> windows, I'm sure it would fit your requirements of an urban assault
> marauder... in a exhilarating bad-ass way.
>
> Beside, you would save around about 630K$ compared to its ancestor
> (
> http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/super-rare-650k-aston-martin-shooting
> -brake-up-for-auction-ar94638/picture371139.html). Second, but not least,
> it
> would make a lot of room to sleep off a decent number of beers at S-Fest ;
>
> I would figure 5K for the Sehrleichtjagtavant conversion if the
> Zukommensehrleichtjagtavant paint is good enough that welding the rear
> doors
> does not require a full respray and your skills include enough creativity
> to
> make a nice looking trunk booth from the front doors back without hiring a
> interior designer. Considering how unique this all-black-bad-ass would be,
> I
> would even make without the RS2 conversion to fit in the budget. But it's
> just me and my crazy ideas.
>
>
>
> Vincent - dreaming of what if I had as many 15K as projects - F
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of bill mahoney
> Sent: 7 February 2011 18:02
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com; Hap Maguire
> Subject: [s-cars] Avantissimo light
>
> Hap, et.al.,
> Thanks for the great ideas and responses.
> I have yet to set my eyes upon this potential rat rod S-car, a concept
> pioneered by Vincent up north and Serge of Crooklyn fame.
> That said, Serge's Maaco Blue avant met an untimely demise in a Crooklyn
> intersection IIRC, and Vincent's Silver (some called it rusted) Bullet was
> simply overcome when more systems were not working than were.
> It will be interesting to see what rolls off the car carrier in a week or
> two.  Hard to say.  The PO didn't even know it had seat heaters and was
> using it as a, so called, Greenwich "Station Car."  Oh my!
> Bill~jnr on too many level's~M
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