[s-cars] Going insane... UrS4 falling on it's face at WOT
Cody Forbes
cody at 5000tq.com
Sun Jul 17 09:46:58 PDT 2011
One note I have is to explain you AFR meter showing lean. A misfire will always cause an oxygen sensor to show lean. It's measuring oxygen content of the exhaust and without a combustion event burning up the oxygen the engine is just pumping fresh air through.
-Cody (mobile)
On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Darin Nederhoff <scarsgo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey gang,
>
> My car has been driving me insane for a while now. First of all the car is
> a '93 S4 with 170k and full RS2 spec build (cam, inj, fpr, maf, exh man,
> turbo, yadda yadda). It started displaying symptoms of high boost misfire
> (above 16psi) which historically has meant a failing coil. No biggie.
> Trouble is that all the coils, plugs, and power output stages are new or new
> within the last year (if that) as is the fuel pressure regulator, fuel
> filter, O2 sensor and wastegate frequency valve. The car is still bucking
> like mad at WOT and I'm getting black smoke out the tailpipe at the same
> time. The odd thing is that my A/F meter shows the car initially going rich
> under boost but then it swings right back to full lean on stumble.
>
> I've already tried swapping MAFs with my father's S4 and got no change.
> Have tried hunting for boost leaks with nothing evident either.
> Arghhhhh
>
>
> For the nerds here, these are some of my test results thus far...
>
> MOTRONIC IGNITION SYSTEM:
>
> 1. Checked all resistance of all spark plug connectors. J28-7
> 1993 S4 (mine) / 1994 S4 (mother's)
> 1 = 5010 / 4850
> 2 = 4600 / 4890
> 3 = 4520 / 4820
> 4 = 5000 / 4860
> 5 = 5190 / 5150
>
> Replaced #2 with new = 5020
> Replaced#3 with new = 5100
> Reassembled and test drove; No Change
>
> 2. Exchanged ignition coil mounting bracket with coils and spark plug
> connectors form 1994 S4 to 1993 S4. Test drove: No Change.
> Still misses, black smoke from tail pipe when it misses.
>
> 3. Switch back from Step 2. Disconnected harness connectors from
> all five fuel injectors. Installed spark plugs in the spark plug
> connectors and placed on the cylinder head cover. Operated
> starter. Strong spark at all spark plugs.
>
> Tested each coil with gap tester set at 1.84mm (normal plug gap =
> 0.6 mm). Operated starter. Strong spark at all positions.
>
> CHECKED FUEL SYSTEM PRESSURE: J24-13
> (Mine has RS2 FPR while 94 S4 has stock FPR)
>
> 1.Removed fuse 17 and made remote fuel pressure switch.
> Removed vacuum hose from fuel pressure regulator and connected
> fuel pressure gauge. Activated pump until top pressure.
>
> Top Pressure = 54 Bentley acceptable range = 58-61. To make
> sure I also tested the 1994 S4 = 58.
>
> Immediately after fuel pump switched off, pressure = 50 Bentley
> acceptable range 49-54. 1194 S4 = 51.
>
> 2. Inserted fuse and run engine at idle. Reconnected vacuum hose at
> fuel pressure regulator and observed drop in pressure 54 – 47 = 7.
> Acceptable range = 7. OK
>
> 3. Stopped engine, timed 10 minutes. Residual pressure = 49.
> Acceptable for warm engine is 41 psi.
>
> COMPRESSION TEST RESULTS: (These concern me a bit?)
>
> #1 120 PSI
> #2 115
> #3 110
> #4 115
> #5 120
>
> The Bentley lists the spec. range 131-189, difference between cylinders of
> less than 44 and the wear limit of 102.
>
>
>
> Would appreciate other possible directions to go with this one? I've never
> really been "stuck" with something on one of these cars in recent years but
> I'm not quite sure where to go from here.
>
> Thanks in advance gang,
>
>
>
>
> --
> Darin Nederhoff
> http://S-CARS.ORG/site
> 1993 S4 //RS2 spec
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