[s-cars] List Wisdom Sought - M1 or Rotella T6, or does it matter (no flame wars, please)

[Cody Forbes]

I did specifically say I wasn't trying to sell anybody on anything. I merely pointed out another option for people that weren't aware it existed. 

-Cody
(Sent from my phone, if a word doesn't fit blame Siri)

On Apr 7, 2012, at 2:40 PM, djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:

> OK... you can disagree.  But we were talking about Rotella, not M1.  Rotella is 100% synthetic.  At 9.60/liter, that's still nearly twice as expensive as Rotella, plus I would have to pay for it to be shipped to me.
> 
> I can appreciate that you like the product.  But you're going to have a very difficult time selling me on a product that's twice as expensive with no measurable reason why I should go that direction.
> 
> Let's look at my Jeep.  330,000 miles, a 5000 mile oil change interval, and 6 quarts each change.  In those 330k miles, I would have spent nearly $2000 extra changing my oil with Motul vs. Rotella.  That's arguably more than it would cost me to rebuild a cast iron American V8.
> 
> I like good oil and want my engine to be protected, like everyone.  However, there is a point of diminishing returns.  Companies that manage large fleets agree, and that's why you'll never see "exotic" oil used in those operations.  It simply doesn't make any mathematical sense whatsoever.
> 
> Buying that sort of "special" oil, Royal Purple, Amsoil, and others, IMO, just makes you feel good.  I'm spending more $ therefore it must be better.  No one's going to tell me that any of those specialty companies have a fraction of the budget or technology to compete with Mobil or Shell.  Check out what goes on in F1 with Shell. 
> 
> Just my .02
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com>
> To: djdawson2 <djdawson2 at aol.com>
> Cc: ian <ian at inside-overlap.com>; s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Sat, Apr 7, 2012 11:43 am
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] List Wisdom Sought - M1 or Rotella T6, or does it matter (no flame wars, please)
> 
> I disagree, it's actually more like $9.60/l. Yeah it's a little more expensive than M1, but it's 100% synthetic unlike Mobil 1. Anyways I'll leave anybody interested to do some research, enjoy!
> 
> 
> -Cody
> (Sent from my phone, if a word doesn't fit blame Siri)
> 
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> It's probably the fact that it's $11+ per liter.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com>
>> To: Ian Duff <ian at inside-overlap.com>
>> Cc: Scarlist <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 6, 2012 7:51 pm
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] List Wisdom Sought - M1 or Rotella T6, or does it matter (no flame wars, please)
>> 
>> I know it's not an option listed, by I'd like to throw Motul in the mix. They 
>> are ramping up US availability and have a good product. I'll admit that I am a 
>> dealer for them, but that isn't why I'm writing this. I pursued becoming a 
>> dealer for them because I believe in the product which I was using long before I 
>> became a dealer. I'm not even going to list my employers info nor suggest 
>> purchasing from me as I don't have much stock yet. 
>> 
>> -Cody
>> (Sent from my phone, if a word doesn't fit blame Siri)
>> 
>> On Apr 6, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Ian Duff <ian at inside-overlap.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Switched over to Rotella T6 for my TDIs a while back, been very happy. Waiting 
>> for the Lubricheck www.lubricheck.com to arrive so I can quantify "happy". TDI 
>> Club forums are littered with "happy with Rotella T6" posts, virtually all 
>> anecdotal.
>> > 
>> > Rotella T6 is advertised as completely synthetic, isn't M1 now a blend of 
>> synthetic on a dino base? Without empirical data, not sure how big a deal that 
>> is, or even if I'm right...
>> > 
>> > -Ian Duff.
>> > 
>> > On 06 Apr, 2012, at 16:34, LL - NY wrote:
>> > 
>> >> As subject line says.  About to go shopping (used the last of my old
>> >> stock of M1), figured I'd ask.
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