[s-cars] Upgrading B5 A4 suspension

[Larry]

w/rt the Hoosier comment, the Hoosier both Teddy and I referred to is the A6, the R6 just never gets to temp fast enough for Autocross unless you scrub it, but then you'd be slow from scrubbing anyway.

As for the new BFG...it's ABOUT TIME someone put up an Autocross tire that can go head to head with the A6, and it sounds like your testing of it makes it a one set/season tire instead of the $$$$ Hoosies being 1.5 -  2 sets/season. If they come in at R1 prices, I may have to go to ESP... (nah, then you really can't reasonably street the car).

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On Apr 18, 2012, at 7:47 PM, "Cody Forbes" <cody at 5000tq.com> wrote:

> I've been doing tire testing for BFG recently. They are going to be coming out with a new R1 compound called the R1S. It's supposed to compete with the Hoosier A6, the autocross compound. They sent me a couple sets to put on the A5 track car because they wanted to see just how much punishment they can take. I finally killed the two fronts of the first set after **FIVE** track days running an average of (5) 25 minute sessions every day, and in one day double-stinting them over two 20 minute sessions with a pit lane driver change about about 3 times (that’s 2 back to back sessions, 20 minute break, two sessions, break, two sessions).
> 
> Understand that this is on a car that I weighed at 3967lbs with a 180lb person in the drivers seat and the low fuel warning light on and running an autocross tire **HARD** on Road Atlanta, Carolina Motorsports Park, and VIR. Full list of mods:
> http://www.gmpperformance.com/index.cfm?pg=carGallery&makerID=2&vGroupID=287&mode=displayVehicle&VID=3268
> 
> I actually just got back from VIR, ran a monday-tuesday Audi Club event. With these tires on this car was one of the fastest in the corners, I was easily running with Porsche GT3's on Hoosier R6's and similar tires. Even had the chief instructor come to me and state that the A5 was one of the best handling and best driven cars at the event (and he was in a GT2 on slicks). I cooked the brakes early on so I was braking early, WAY early, and still ran under 2:20.00 laps. Uphill esses were completely flat out, 120mph no problem in a car that would only do about 125mph top speed on the big straights. In my last session I got some data from an AiM datalogger, I'll get that posted somewhere ASAP.
> 
> 
> So give it another month or so and the R1S will be out. Should be a huge improvement over the R1 in an auto-x. BTW, I saw a Hoosier comment - the BFG R1 is a better tire than the Hoosier R6. Times are close, but the R1 seems to last longer and be more predictable.
> 
> -Cody
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Lee Levitt
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:44 AM
> To: S-car List ; Quattro List
> Subject: Upgrading B5 A4 suspension
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I've been running a Bilstein, Eibach, Hsport suspension on my '01 A4 1.8t for 3 years now, and am wondering if I can improve the handling by going to a different setup. For the street it's fine, for autocross it's not as precise as I'd like. Or maybe it's me. :)
> 
> I did an autocross school on Sunday, got 10 runs in on my street tires (Dunlops) and another 10 on BFG R1s. The car was a lot more controllable with the latter and I was putting down times equal to/better than many of the BMWs ( admittedly I have more autocross seat time than many of the other attendees...and the timed course was not power friendly.)
> 
> Anyway, I'd like to improve my results, and would appreciate all inputs. :)
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Lee
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