[s-cars] Was: Upgrading B5 A4 suspension, Now VIR & track Tires

Thu Apr 19 06:52:45 PDT 2012

Cody,

I usually try to make the April & November VIR events for the Potomac Chesapeake Chapter (PCC) of the Audi Club, so if you are there this November (10 & 11th)  I'll be sure to stop by and say hello.

I don't know the guy in the 20V Turbo CQ, he was there pretty regularly but then I didn't see that car for a while. This was the first time I'd seen it back there in about a year or so I think. 

The April VIR event is usually pretty lightly attended due to it being during the work week. This is the first time they've ever canceled the first evening banquet since I've been attending (I imagine because not enough people signed up to pay for the food), I've been going to these for about 8 years and only missed this past Novembers event due to a cracked head (in the car, not atop my shoulders, although me wife may have a different opinion),  the upside of course is less traffic! The November PCC event at VIR is on a weekend and it is usually packed, there are a handful of old Audi iron that attend (a urS sedan or 2, a 4000 or 2, and a 5000 track car).

Didn't want to hold anyone up, so many 911's and Corvettes I got used to sticking my finger out there. It was good to see another actual Audi on track at the ACNA event.

I'm running Toyo RA-1's on Ms Piggy, how would those new BFG's compare? 

If any of your tire vendors want to unload a set of tires to "test" I'd be happy to offer my services (255-40-17's) !!!

Regards,

Manny
95.5 urS6 Avant (RS2'd)

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:03:57 -0400
>From: Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com>  
>Subject: Re: Upgrading B5 A4 suspension (Cody Forbes)  
>To: Manuel Sanchez <manuelsanchez at starpower.net>
>Cc: "s-car-list at audifans.com" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>
>I was wondering about that Avant! I too kept meaning to say hi buy was pretty occupied as I was instructing and dealing with the two cars etc. I think I only got out in your session once, that Avant looked fun on the track and I would have gladly followed for longer but you have the point do I took it ;-).
>
>The little white guy is our S3 race car. It's got a 1.8t in it. The sharks mouth is result of the owner being bored at 3am two days before our last race last year while I was finishing up the car prep ;-). That shark mouth I think helped us win the NASA GTS3 SouthEast championship last year lol.
>
>How about that 20v turbo CQ that was there, you know him?
>
>-Cody
>(Sent from my phone, if a word doesn't fit blame Siri)
>
>On Apr 19, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Manuel Sanchez <manuelsanchez at starpower.net> wrote:
>
>> Threadjack.
>> 
>> Cody, I was at VIR on Monday and Tuesday as well (in a black urS6 Avant).
>> 
>> Saw your A5 and what was that coupe with the sharks mouth painted on it, an  A3? What's under the hood of that thing?
>> I was always fiddling with something on the pig or trying to catch a catnap here and there so I never stopped over.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Manny
>> urS6 Avant (RS2'd with a refurbished head)
>> 
>>> 
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:47:28 -0400
>>> From: "Cody Forbes" <cody at 5000tq.com>
>>> To: "Lee Levitt" <lee at wheelman.com>, "S-car List"
>>>    <s-car-list at audifans.com>,    "Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Upgrading B5 A4 suspension
>>> Message-ID: <DDD3FEC9D55747AD82130407D48B8550 at Hamilton>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
>>>    reply-type=original
>>> 
>>> I've been doing tire testing for BFG recently. They are going to be coming
>>> out with a new R1 compound called the R1S. It's supposed to compete with the
>>> Hoosier A6, the autocross compound. They sent me a couple sets to put on the
>>> A5 track car because they wanted to see just how much punishment they can
>>> take. I finally killed the two fronts of the first set after **FIVE** track
>>> days running an average of (5) 25 minute sessions every day, and in one day
>>> double-stinting them over two 20 minute sessions with a pit lane driver
>>> change about about 3 times (that?s 2 back to back sessions, 20 minute break,
>>> two sessions, break, two sessions).
>>> 
>>> Understand that this is on a car that I weighed at 3967lbs with a 180lb
>>> person in the drivers seat and the low fuel warning light on and running an
>>> autocross tire **HARD** on Road Atlanta, Carolina Motorsports Park, and VIR.
>>> Full list of mods:
>>> http://www.gmpperformance.com/index.cfm?pg=carGallery&makerID=2&vGroupID=287&mode=displayVehicle&VID=3268
>>> 
>>> I actually just got back from VIR, ran a monday-tuesday Audi Club event.
>>> With these tires on this car was one of the fastest in the corners, I was
>>> easily running with Porsche GT3's on Hoosier R6's and similar tires. Even
>>> had the chief instructor come to me and state that the A5 was one of the
>>> best handling and best driven cars at the event (and he was in a GT2 on
>>> slicks). I cooked the brakes early on so I was braking early, WAY early, and
>>> still ran under 2:20.00 laps. Uphill esses were completely flat out, 120mph
>>> no problem in a car that would only do about 125mph top speed on the big
>>> straights. In my last session I got some data from an AiM datalogger, I'll
>>> get that posted somewhere ASAP.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So give it another month or so and the R1S will be out. Should be a huge
>>> improvement over the R1 in an auto-x. BTW, I saw a Hoosier comment - the BFG
>>> R1 is a better tire than the Hoosier R6. Times are close, but the R1 seems
>>> to last longer and be more predictable.
>>> 
>>> -Cody
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lee Levitt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:44 AM
>>> To: S-car List ; Quattro List
>>> Subject: Upgrading B5 A4 suspension
>>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> I've been running a Bilstein, Eibach, Hsport suspension on my '01 A4 1.8t
>>> for 3 years now, and am wondering if I can improve the handling by going to
>>> a different setup. For the street it's fine, for autocross it's not as
>>> precise as I'd like. Or maybe it's me. :)
>>> 
>>> I did an autocross school on Sunday, got 10 runs in on my street tires
>>> (Dunlops) and another 10 on BFG R1s. The car was a lot more controllable
>>> with the latter and I was putting down times equal to/better than many of
>>> the BMWs ( admittedly I have more autocross seat time than many of the other
>>> attendees...and the timed course was not power friendly.)
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I'd like to improve my results, and would appreciate all inputs. :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Lee
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