[s-cars] New tires, shocks, and the occasional bump in the road - er, wallet
Steve Voit
stevevoit at comcast.net
Sat Dec 14 11:48:38 PST 2013
S-heads:
Since the beginning of time I have run Eibach sport springs, Bilstein Sport
shocks, and (225/60x16)Michelin XGT4, then Pilot Sport A/S, then Pilot Sport
A/S+ (2 sets) over the years. I found 2 things to be true: (1) The
Michelin tires looked less and less beefy/cool over successive generations
but their performance always improved, and (2) the Bilstein shocks always
started way to stiff, were great for ~20k miles, then were too loose
thereafter. After the last set of Michelin A/S+ uncharacteristically
disappointed me (chunking tread blocks breaking off, strange noise) and
having 2 sets of short lived Bilstein shocks in the garage I decided it was
time for a new approach.
I mounted Koni sport adjustable shocks and Bridgestone Potenza RE970 AS
($134) pole position tires. The AS970s are highly regarded on Tire Rack.
The car was smooth & quiet with good adhesion at the limit. Dynamically not
so sure not nearly as confident mid-turn, and seemingly overwhelmed by
simultaneous braking/turning, especially on rough surfaces. 5k miles later
I couldnt take it: I concluded that the tires just did not have a stiff
enough sidewall to match the spring rate and weight of the car AND the Konis
at ½ of setting were under damped. Sigh.
Last week I had the shocks adjusted to ¾ setting and I mounted up another
new set of tires - the new Michelin A/S 3. This set-up is sublime. Most
surprising is the contrast comparing 2 new tire packages, which one rarely
gets to do: Compared to the 970AS the Michelins jump into turns, they feel
energetic and confident, they are stable in sweeping high speed turns. They
are quiet. Im totally satisfied. The ¾ Koni setting is right for the
Eibach springs, too, hope they hold this damping for a long time. Only
downside is a tendency to tramline in rutted freeway lanes which I can
easily live with. The new setup rides a bit harder, but very reasonably so,
and to be expected. Oh, they dont fill the wheel wells and look as cool
the bridgestones looked cool.
In the end I want to endorse the Pilot AS3 tire ($141) and point out how
important it is to have a sidewall stiffness to match spring rate stiffness,
particularly on a heavy car like ours.
Because youll ask:
a) I sold the 970 AS to a used tire store for $55 ea. b) I have 1 or 2
low mileage worn sets of Bilsteins to sell make offer; c) I have a new
set of +10%/+30% factory customized Bilsteins (happersized, too stiff for
me) to sell make offer, d) also original headlight assemblies (perfect
shape), orig springs
Steve Voit
95.5 S6 Seattle
140k miles
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