[s-cars] S-CAR-List Digest, Vol 122, Issue 13

McCarthy, James jmccarthy at oeb.harvard.edu
Tue Dec 17 15:07:51 PST 2013


Thanks Tim, 

The number may be obsolete, since I didn't catch your message.

I have all the other parts listed, and will put them together in an order. 

Two things - 

I want the highest quality part you have, and am assuming that the Hepu water pump is equal or superior to Graf, but please make any substitutions where you have a higher quality part than the one that I have specified.

Also let me know if it looks as if I have forgotten anything (I don't need coolant).

Finally, no rush on this.

Right now I am heading home in a very slow bus with traffic seriously slowed by snow.

Happy holidays, Jim

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil - the real issue is	not
      "seals" (Stott Hare)
   2. Re:  disable warning buzzer (Jerry Scott)
   3. Re:  Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil - the real issue is not
      "seals" (Taka Mizutani)
   4. Re:  Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil - the real issue is	not
      "seals" (James Murray)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:10:23 -0500
From: "Stott Hare" <stott at gwi.net>
To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil - the real issue is
	not	"seals"
Message-ID: <000301cefb64$0540b070$0fc21150$@gwi.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Taka,

You act like a Jersey housewife trying to provoke a catfight.  Apparently
you perceive yourself behind in some score and felt the need to call Scott
out on some random thread.  Don't be so surprised or let your ego swell too
much just because he answered.

-S

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:07 PM
To: Scott Justusson
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil - the real issue is not
"seals"

Scott- is Castrol GTX HM formulated for higher ZDDP? The current S* spec oil
mandates lower ZDDP levels, so you won't find a conforming oil with high
ZDDP levels.

I'm glad that you find it so important to comment every time I put anything
on the list.


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:

> Sigh, here we go again....  This has nothing to do with seals, 
> swelling or
> (OMG) the switch from synthetic to dino oil.  This is an educated 
> mechanic legitimate concern about M1 products reducing the levels of 
> Zinc and Phosporus to comply with the lower EGR/catalyst effects of 
> wear additives, driven by the EPA>Car Manufacturers.  One might argue 
> that, esp on cold start, an engine at 245k would benefit from extra 
> ZDDP(dino)/ZDTP(synth) Zinc and Phosphorus.  Previous levels were in 
> the 1100-1300 range, the new standard is sub 800.  M1 Claims this change
is safe for new and 'old'
> vehicles, but I think that is plain marketing BS.
>
> The best compromise to the OP IMO, is to switch to M1 Turbo Diesel 
> Truck Oil or a Delvac Synthetic, as both retain much higher levels of 
> cold start/worn engine tolerance, wear barriers.  Short of that, a 
> change to a Castrol dino product will yield the same results.
>
> As a rule I don't enjoy engine oil discussions, but dragged in by a 
> point-by, happy to back up the educated mechanic recommendation and 
> concern, than anyone focused on 'swelling seals' totally missing the 
> legitimate issue.
>
> BTW those in select states might just find that M1 Turbo Diesel Truck 
> oil by the gallon at Autozone, is less than Wallyworld brand dino oil.
>  BtstockeduponT
>
> Taka, you just try to hard, it's the Holidays, and it would appear Mr 
> Rodrigez educated mechanic is just looking out for a good customer.
>
> Cheers
>
> S "Taka point-by again" J
> 95.5 S6 M1 Turbo Diesel Truck OIl
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> To: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 2:50 pm
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil
>
>
> I would not do that myself- going from full synthetic to a 
> conventional oil with seal swellers doesn't really make sense to me, 
> especially if you've had no issues with running synthetic. The 
> synthetic will last longer and be more resistant to viscosity 
> breakdown, often has a lower pour point and a higher flash point.
>
> However, you should ask Scott because I am not qualified to answer any 
> questions about cars at all.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Thomas Rodriguez <trodri69 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > My '95 S6 has 245K miles.  Head was rebuilt about 40K miles ago but 
> > otherwise the engine is original. I've been using Mobil 1 5W/30 
> > synthetic motor oil for as long as I can remember. Engine runs 
> > strong. I add about
> a
> > quart between scheduled oil and filter changes every 3K miles.  
> > Otherwise there are no signs of burning or leaking oil.
> >
> > Last week my mechanic recommended we switch to Castrol GTX High 
> > Mileage 5W/30. I agreed and have driven about 300 miles with this 
> > oil in the engine.  I understand that this oil is not synthetic.
> >
> > Any thoughts about using the Castrol GTX HM oil?
> >
> > Tom
> > '95 S6
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:34:35 -0700
From: "Jerry Scott" <jerryscott at wispertel.net>
To: "'Darin Nederhoff'" <scarsgo at gmail.com>
Cc: 's-car list' <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] disable warning buzzer
Message-ID: <002a01cefb6f$c836cfa0$58a46ee0$@wispertel.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Darin
Would you happen to have the part number?
Jerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Darin Nederhoff [mailto:scarsgo at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:54 AM
To: Jerry Scott
Subject: Re: [s-cars] disable warning buzzer

Mine literally just malfunctioned out if the blue one day.  I checked all
the door switches but at the time they were good.

Might check eBay for the buzzer relay. There were lots of urs4 bits on there
and I think I saw one.

Darin Nederhoff

Sent from my iPhone



> On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Jerry Scott <jerryscott at wispertel.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Darin- that's what I was hoping to hear from someone.  I assume 
> that you found nothing wrong with any of the sensors that would 
> trigger the alarm.
> Jerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darin Nederhoff [mailto:scarsgo at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:55 PM
> To: Jerry Scott
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] disable warning buzzer
>
> The warning relay failed on mine in the same fashion years ago. I 
> unplugged it until I got a replacement and it's been fine since.
>
> Darin Nederhoff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>> On Dec 14, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Jerry Scott <jerryscott at wispertel.net>
wrote:
>>
>> I have been unable to find why my warning buzz on my 93 sedan, keeps 
>> sounding continuously.  It comes on after I start the engine and 
>> sounds until I shut off the engine.  It looks like, from the 
>> instrument panel bulb replacement pictures posted in an earlier 
>> write-up, that it's just below the fuel gauge in the back of the 
>> panel.  I have tried finding the problem, but with no success, so 
>> have
> decided to disable it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone done this successfully?  It appears to be enclosed in a 
>> white plastic cover that may be difficult to remove from the back of 
>> the instrument panel.  It's driving me nuts and I want to clip the 
>> leads.  I know how to remove the instrument panel, but can't see how 
>> to get to the buzzer leads.  I cannot get the car inspected by the 
>> State of Colorado with the buzzer sounding, so it's going to have to 
>> go.  Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 17:06:41 -0500
From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
To: stott at gwi.net
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil - the real issue is
	not	"seals"
Message-ID:
	<CAAjnjG88QDPvmsXOdtEwwnRqusecn+DyskR-6mEBMcJbfWJ1Nw at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

That's a good one. I've never heard that before.
Ego? That's the pot calling the kettle black.
On Dec 17, 2013 3:18 PM, "Stott Hare" <stott at gwi.net> wrote:

> Taka,
>
> You act like a Jersey housewife trying to provoke a catfight.  Apparently
> you perceive yourself behind in some score and felt the need to call Scott
> out on some random thread.  Don't be so surprised or let your ego swell too
> much just because he answered.
>
> -S
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:07 PM
> To: Scott Justusson
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil - the real issue is not
> "seals"
>
> Scott- is Castrol GTX HM formulated for higher ZDDP? The current S* spec
> oil
> mandates lower ZDDP levels, so you won't find a conforming oil with high
> ZDDP levels.
>
> I'm glad that you find it so important to comment every time I put anything
> on the list.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Sigh, here we go again....  This has nothing to do with seals,
> > swelling or
> > (OMG) the switch from synthetic to dino oil.  This is an educated
> > mechanic legitimate concern about M1 products reducing the levels of
> > Zinc and Phosporus to comply with the lower EGR/catalyst effects of
> > wear additives, driven by the EPA>Car Manufacturers.  One might argue
> > that, esp on cold start, an engine at 245k would benefit from extra
> > ZDDP(dino)/ZDTP(synth) Zinc and Phosphorus.  Previous levels were in
> > the 1100-1300 range, the new standard is sub 800.  M1 Claims this change
> is safe for new and 'old'
> > vehicles, but I think that is plain marketing BS.
> >
> > The best compromise to the OP IMO, is to switch to M1 Turbo Diesel
> > Truck Oil or a Delvac Synthetic, as both retain much higher levels of
> > cold start/worn engine tolerance, wear barriers.  Short of that, a
> > change to a Castrol dino product will yield the same results.
> >
> > As a rule I don't enjoy engine oil discussions, but dragged in by a
> > point-by, happy to back up the educated mechanic recommendation and
> > concern, than anyone focused on 'swelling seals' totally missing the
> > legitimate issue.
> >
> > BTW those in select states might just find that M1 Turbo Diesel Truck
> > oil by the gallon at Autozone, is less than Wallyworld brand dino oil.
> >  BtstockeduponT
> >
> > Taka, you just try to hard, it's the Holidays, and it would appear Mr
> > Rodrigez educated mechanic is just looking out for a good customer.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > S "Taka point-by again" J
> > 95.5 S6 M1 Turbo Diesel Truck OIl
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > To: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 2:50 pm
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil
> >
> >
> > I would not do that myself- going from full synthetic to a
> > conventional oil with seal swellers doesn't really make sense to me,
> > especially if you've had no issues with running synthetic. The
> > synthetic will last longer and be more resistant to viscosity
> > breakdown, often has a lower pour point and a higher flash point.
> >
> > However, you should ask Scott because I am not qualified to answer any
> > questions about cars at all.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Thomas Rodriguez <trodri69 at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > My '95 S6 has 245K miles.  Head was rebuilt about 40K miles ago but
> > > otherwise the engine is original. I've been using Mobil 1 5W/30
> > > synthetic motor oil for as long as I can remember. Engine runs
> > > strong. I add about
> > a
> > > quart between scheduled oil and filter changes every 3K miles.
> > > Otherwise there are no signs of burning or leaking oil.
> > >
> > > Last week my mechanic recommended we switch to Castrol GTX High
> > > Mileage 5W/30. I agreed and have driven about 300 miles with this
> > > oil in the engine.  I understand that this oil is not synthetic.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts about using the Castrol GTX HM oil?
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > '95 S6
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > S-CAR-List mailing list
> > > http://audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list
> > > http://www.audifans.com/kb/List_information
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://www.audifans.com/kb/List_information
> >
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 22:16:18 +0000
From: James Murray <james.murray at ericsson.com>
To: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>, "stott at gwi.net"
	<stott at gwi.net>
Cc: "s-car-list at audifans.com" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil - the real issue is
	not	"seals"
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	<522CE8A16FDE2D4C9B0AAD2D7BEB57F01C08AEEF at eusaamb103.ericsson.se>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Wow, you guys should visit http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/ you'd feel right at home! 

;-)

/James "stove element" Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
Sent: December-17-13 5:07 PM
To: stott at gwi.net
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil - the real issue is not "seals"

That's a good one. I've never heard that before.
Ego? That's the pot calling the kettle black.
On Dec 17, 2013 3:18 PM, "Stott Hare" <stott at gwi.net> wrote:

> Taka,
>
> You act like a Jersey housewife trying to provoke a catfight.  
> Apparently you perceive yourself behind in some score and felt the 
> need to call Scott out on some random thread.  Don't be so surprised 
> or let your ego swell too much just because he answered.
>
> -S
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:07 PM
> To: Scott Justusson
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil - the real issue is 
> not "seals"
>
> Scott- is Castrol GTX HM formulated for higher ZDDP? The current S* 
> spec oil mandates lower ZDDP levels, so you won't find a conforming 
> oil with high ZDDP levels.
>
> I'm glad that you find it so important to comment every time I put 
> anything on the list.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Sigh, here we go again....  This has nothing to do with seals, 
> > swelling or
> > (OMG) the switch from synthetic to dino oil.  This is an educated 
> > mechanic legitimate concern about M1 products reducing the levels of 
> > Zinc and Phosporus to comply with the lower EGR/catalyst effects of 
> > wear additives, driven by the EPA>Car Manufacturers.  One might 
> > argue that, esp on cold start, an engine at 245k would benefit from 
> > extra
> > ZDDP(dino)/ZDTP(synth) Zinc and Phosphorus.  Previous levels were in 
> > the 1100-1300 range, the new standard is sub 800.  M1 Claims this 
> > change
> is safe for new and 'old'
> > vehicles, but I think that is plain marketing BS.
> >
> > The best compromise to the OP IMO, is to switch to M1 Turbo Diesel 
> > Truck Oil or a Delvac Synthetic, as both retain much higher levels 
> > of cold start/worn engine tolerance, wear barriers.  Short of that, 
> > a change to a Castrol dino product will yield the same results.
> >
> > As a rule I don't enjoy engine oil discussions, but dragged in by a 
> > point-by, happy to back up the educated mechanic recommendation and 
> > concern, than anyone focused on 'swelling seals' totally missing the 
> > legitimate issue.
> >
> > BTW those in select states might just find that M1 Turbo Diesel 
> > Truck oil by the gallon at Autozone, is less than Wallyworld brand dino oil.
> >  BtstockeduponT
> >
> > Taka, you just try to hard, it's the Holidays, and it would appear 
> > Mr Rodrigez educated mechanic is just looking out for a good customer.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > S "Taka point-by again" J
> > 95.5 S6 M1 Turbo Diesel Truck OIl
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > To: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 2:50 pm
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Castrol GTX High Mileage Oil
> >
> >
> > I would not do that myself- going from full synthetic to a 
> > conventional oil with seal swellers doesn't really make sense to me, 
> > especially if you've had no issues with running synthetic. The 
> > synthetic will last longer and be more resistant to viscosity 
> > breakdown, often has a lower pour point and a higher flash point.
> >
> > However, you should ask Scott because I am not qualified to answer 
> > any questions about cars at all.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Thomas Rodriguez 
> > <trodri69 at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > My '95 S6 has 245K miles.  Head was rebuilt about 40K miles ago 
> > > but otherwise the engine is original. I've been using Mobil 1 
> > > 5W/30 synthetic motor oil for as long as I can remember. Engine 
> > > runs strong. I add about
> > a
> > > quart between scheduled oil and filter changes every 3K miles.
> > > Otherwise there are no signs of burning or leaking oil.
> > >
> > > Last week my mechanic recommended we switch to Castrol GTX High 
> > > Mileage 5W/30. I agreed and have driven about 300 miles with this 
> > > oil in the engine.  I understand that this oil is not synthetic.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts about using the Castrol GTX HM oil?
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > '95 S6
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > S-CAR-List mailing list
> > > http://audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list
> > > http://www.audifans.com/kb/List_information
> > >
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> >
> >
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