[s-cars] Alarm system/locking system problems

Larry larrycleung at gmail.com
Mon Jan 14 15:57:42 PST 2013


I thought central locking was supposed to auto lock the car if:

1) the locks were unlocked by the remote (not the key in the door lock)
 
2) neither ANY door or the trunk/hatch were physically opened within some specified period of time (never timed it, seems to be about five minutes)

This is how my 95.5 (RF remote) functions, and has since I've owned it. If you open a door/trunk or use the key in any lock, auto lock is defeated.  I've always thought this was a feature, not a warning of a potential system failure. As I recall, my Mom's 2001.5 Passat does the same thing, but this is not something I could ever ever explain to her how to check, perhaps I can have my friend check on his '02 Passat.

LL-NY

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On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Tony Curran <tony.curran at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Keith,
> 
> What your wife experienced was the central locking being set and the
> immobiliser activated - the hazard warning light on the dash would have been
> flashing.
> 
> Finally, someone else reporting this problem!!! I think I'm the only other
> to have experienced this - no one else has reported this on the list. I've
> had this problem of the central locking auto locking the car by itself for
> several years now. It only happens in the winter and sporadically - like it
> didn't happen at all last year. It has a couple of times this year when it
> has been cold (-15degC - I live in Ottawa) I don't believe it is the CLP - I
> replaced it when after the pump was continually activating overnight, the
> pump finally failed.
> 
> My car is an S6 with RF remote. I disconnected the RF receiver as neither of
> my RF fobs worked and I installed a Rightclick system - so it isn't the RF
> Receiver.
> 
> Two other possibilities
> 
> 1.    driver door central looking switch.
> 2.    driver door lock.
> 
> I'd tend to lean towards 2 as the culprit. I've tried opening up the inside
> door panel but it is difficult to diagnose when it only happens when it's
> cold and I'm not likely to spend much time in the garage trying to find it.
> 
> What I do as a temp fix is to pull the central locking fuse - this is only
> done after the central locking is back working - it's in the fuse box under
> the hood, driver side.
> 
> So, I've never fixed it. Sometimes spend a little time trying to chase it
> but it's normally too cold and it works 99.5% of the time!!
> 
> Did this happen before you changed the CLP? I had taken the pump out of the
> equation as I had replaced it, but maybe it's in the harness around the
> pump.
> 
> Good luck, and if you fix it, let me know :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tony
> 96 S6
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Keith Franchetti
> Sent: January-14-13 10:05 AM
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: [s-cars] Alarm system/locking system problems
> 
> Hi All-
> 
> So I replaced the central locking system pump (is this known as the CLP?)
> about 3 weeks ago, because the old one got contaminated by battery acid.  I
> managed to get the foam box fairly clean of the acid (I believe) and I
> replaced the car battery.  Things seemed to have been back at baseline.
> 
> Then yesterday my wife had the car.  When she came out of a store, she found
> that it wouldn't start--didn't even try to crank. She could hear what turned
> out to be the pump working to lock the doors and arm the alarm.
> When she got out of the car, the alarm went off.  When she closed the car,
> she couldn't get back in because the car had locked itself. (She is NOT
> happy with my Audi obsession currently).
> 
> When I arrived to investigate I found that upon unlocking, the car
> immediately relocks itself.  By being quick, I was able to get back into the
> car.  It wasn't starting for her (I believe) because the alarm was arming.
> (The fog light button light was blinking).  I ended up being able to get
> home by pulling the central locking pump, disconnecting it, reconnecting it,
> and I guess sort of tricking it long enough to start car.
> When I arrived home and shut the car off, the alarm immediately re-armed.
> I've disconnected the vacuum hose so I don't get locked out again, and then
> (to keep the pump from running every few seconds, I disonnected one of the
> connectors to the pump, but of course that also prevents car from starting.
> 
> Does anyone think this could be as simple as the brain in my new (used) CL
> pump being bad?  Is there even a "brain" in that thing?  I was surprised to
> see how much plugs into it (3 different connectors)
> 
> Some other possibly related symptoms:
> 1.  There seem to be many more gremlins when temp is in the 40-55 range with
> very high humidity or rain.
> 2.  These have included the dashboard chime (I think it was the reminder to
> put on your seatbelt) continuing to chime for up to a full minute or two.
> 3.  The radio looks on, and comes on for a half second upon starting, then
> won't make any sound for about that same time frame (60-90 seconds).
> 4.  I'm pretty sure on the highway the day before my wife's problem, my
> sunroof tipped open on it's own, then closed after about 5 seconds.  (I know
> this sounds crazy--I also though it could have been a huge gust, opening a
> seal somewhere, briefly, but I don't really think so) 5.  I do have
> occasional problems with the sunroof area not draining properly.  I'm going
> to finally clean those drainage tubes (with any luck) today. Could water be
> getting somewhere to cause my locking problem?
> 6.  There are probably more transient symptoms I'm forgetting, which , as I
> say, may not even be related.
> 
> Does anyone have any bright ideas on what might be at the heart of my
> problems? Thanks much in advance!
> 
> Keith
> Burlington, VT
> 
> '95.5 S6 Avant
> '01 A6 2.7T 6-speed
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