[s-cars] Good news for R12 A/C people

[djdawson2 at aol.com]

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-----Original Message-----
From: Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com>
To: John <johnkarasaki at msn.com>
Cc: <djdawson2 at aol.com> <djdawson2 at aol.com>; urq <urq at audifans.com>; s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2013 10:54 am
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Good news for R12 A/C people


I take that back, they are on ebay for $300-500!

-Cody Forbes (mobile)

On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:27 AM, John <johnkarasaki at msn.com> wrote:

> Hey Dave,
> 
> This is great information. Thanks!
> 
> On a related note, do you know of a lighter, smaller, more efficient 
compressor to replace the heavy York urq compressor.
> 
> John
> 
> djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:
> 
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> Always been a quandary what to do with R12 cars as the refrigerant becomes 
less available and more expensive.
> 
> I've never been a fan of converting R12 systems to R134... the pressure set 
points on the R12 system compressors and the phase change points for the R134 
refrigerant are not optimally compatible, leading to less than great performance 
overall.  On top of that you have to go through the exercise and expense of 
changing out all your o-rings and attempting to purge all of the system's 
non-compatible oil, sometimes hoses, etc...
> 
> In the past, a drop-in replacement has been a product called Autofrost, also 
known as R406A.  I've used this product over the years, and it performed quite 
well.  Additionally, it could be used to top off a low charge situation without 
removing the old R12.
> 
> I recently depleted my remaining supply of the R406A, and when I attempted to 
order another cylinder, I found that it was no longer available.  The supplier 
advised that I try RS24, also known as R426A.
> 
> I had just received my cylinder of RS24 when a fellow lister (Justin Riley) 
needed some help with the A/C in his freshly renovated '85 urq.  He had just 
replaced his receiver/dryer and compressor.  We evacuated his system for about 
an hour, and then charged it with the RS24.  Very quickly we were seeing vent 
temps in the 33-37 degree range, depending on engine speed (a little more speed 
= colder).
> 
> Bottom line - impressive, and a viable alternative to those with R12 cars.
> 
> You can read up on RS24 - but here are some highlights:
> 
> - You can NOT top off a low R12 system with the RS24.  It must be completely 
evacuated and recharged.  Very strongly recommended that you replace the 
receiver/dryer when doing this
> - You do not have to worry about oil compatibility
> 
> You can go here  http://www.rscool.com/RS-24.html ; to see the product charts, 
MSDS, etc..  Also available is a pressure chart which shows performance side by 
side of R12, R134, and RS24... clearly indicating why the RS24 is a far superior 
solution to converting to R134.
> 
> Anyway... thought this might be interesting to folks like me - with a garage 
full of R12 cars.
> 
> Dave
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