[urq] Re: Audi's Future (long)

[Justin]

Don't forget the electronic controlled ignition system. State of the art
during it's day, I know that the cost for the MAC 02 new is like $1500,
used, around $600 (from Dad's Audi recycling...).

Add the cost of the turbo new....around say $1000, with an all aluminum
intercooler...say $900, wastegate $500, and unique piston set...(7:1
compression...), not used by any other model... say additional $4000 and
your looking at close to 8 grand.

This does bring me to another question....

Why did Audi wait till late the 80's to early 90's to implement EFI, since
Porsche, Volvo , and BMW (I think..) were using it as early as 83..?

(My theory: The cost of EFI would brought price of the entire Audi line out
of reach for the intended selling audience...? Anyone have any other
theories on this???)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Huw Powell" <audi at humanspeakers.com>
To: "David" <duandcc_forums at cox.net>
Cc: "UrqList" <urq at audifans.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:49 AM
Subject: [urq] Re: Audi's Future


>
> > Maybe somebody can shed some light on something for me. WHY was the
> > Urq $35,000? The 4000q has basically the same drivetrain other than
> > the turbo engine, right? Was the turbo engine really worth a $28,000
> > premium? I mean both are typ85 cars with quattro. It's not like the
> > body was that much more expensive to make, they made the CGT which is
> > essentially the same body without flares for less than the price of a
> > 4000q.
>
> Let's start with what a 4kq and coupe cost, to see what that premium
> actually is.  Start with 35k - 28k = 7k.  4kq's definitely were *not* $7
> new, ever.
>
> My '82 coupe, with no options except A/C, was $16k.  My old boss's '85
> 4kq, pretty much loaded, was $20k.
>
> So the "premium" is in the $15k to 19k region, and I'd rather use the
> smaller figure, since I suspect a $35 UrQ had leather, power windows,
> heated seats, etc.
>
> And a turbo engine system that was not in any other car, along with a
> fistful of body and other components that were unique to this, as
> someone pointed out, much smaller run car.
>
> Still seems like a lot, but if these are *US* prices specifically, keep
> in mind that Audi had to crash test cars and build a unique bumper
> system for what turned out to be an export figure of around 800 cars
> over a few years.
>
> So while the "premium" seems high, it probably made sense.
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
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>
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