[urq] 5ktq driveline into UrQ?[wasRe: Urq's and the 016 transmission]

Todd Phenneger tquattroguy at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 8 15:12:18 EST 2004


Ok,
  5ktq/4ktq/Ur-q use same tranny housings.  Which means you will
use the original ur-q/4kq speedo cable and speedometer.
  4kq's are ALL 4.11 gears.  NO 4kq's are 3.89.  THe 84' only
have closer ratio's but gears are still 4.11's.  
   5ktq and ur-q are both 3.89.  So you can leave the ur-q rear
diff in  and use a 5ktq transmission.
  5ktq rear diff is much LONGER than the 4kq/urq setup. This is
to make up for the longer wheelbase.  Instead of re-engineering
the center driveshaft they just made the diff longer.  Wierd. 
So yo CANT use the 5ktq rear diff without major mods.
  Only problem arises if you want to run the 91' 200 torsen
tranny.  Its got 4.11 gears so you would need a 4kq rear diff. 
Also, it has an optical speedo drive not mechanical so you cant
use the original speedo in a 4kq-urq.  That said, I'm not sure
if you can swap in the mechanical drive if you rebuild the 91'
Torsen Tranny, you probably can.
Hope that helps
  Todd - 84' 4ktq with full ur-q suspension but 4.11 gearing.
       - Its For Sale.  Needs to go ASAP. 

--- Ben Swann <benswann at comcast.net> wrote:
> Is this the case, or are they identical(enough to swap)?  I 
> thought it
> would have to be an all or nothing swap, unless the rear diff.
> has the same
> ratios - which glancing at specs Ti gave earlier may be the
> case.
> 
> So do I just swap out the trans and front diff. combo and
> leave rear diff as
> is?
> 
> Ben
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thatcher Hubbard" <thatcher.hubbard at mso.umt.edu>
> To: "Ben Swann" <benswann at comcast.net>
> Cc: <urq at audifans.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>; <ti at amb.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [urq] 5ktq driveline into UrQ?[wasRe: Urq's and
> the 016
> transmission]
> 
> 
> >    If I remember correctly, the rear diff on the 5k was a
> lot larger
> > than the original Urq unit and won't actually fit under the
> car.
> >
> > On Jan 8, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Ben Swann wrote:
> >
> > > Good info!  On that note -
> > >
> > > I am contemplating transplanting driveline from '87 5000
> turbo quattro
> > > into '83 UrQuattro.  Can this be done - using UrQ shafts,
> or are the
> > > trans. too different.  Any merits toward doing this?
> > >
> > > Ben
> 
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