[urq] Stebro Exhaust

Thu Mar 25 17:16:18 EST 2004

The best Ur-q exhausts that I've found other than the factory units are the
ones which Roger Galvin has had built. Fully stainless, 3-piece (main pipe,
centre box & rear box), correct diameter pipe, correct slash cut tips.
The advantage over the factory unit is that the whole thing costs something
like GBP400 whereas a factory rear box doesn't leave much change from
GBP500.

Regards,

Jim Haseltine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Schaible, David" <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com>
To: "Mike Fitton" <rfitton at vt.edu>; "Justin" <cbrooks22 at cox.net>
Cc: <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: [urq] Stebro Exhaust

The scorpion exhaust for the urq is the best in terms of fit and flow.
I have been trying to source one for a few months and believe martin's
statement to be correct. My friend is working on finding some existing
units in Europe.  For whatever reason, maybe the weakening of the $ any
scorpion units have gone up in price considerably.  I would be willing
to try to arrange a group purchase from scorpion to get them to do
another manufacturing run.  This would be a cat (testpipe) back system
with the single wall angled cut rear like the factory unit.  (most of
the units they made for our vehicle had a rolled section on the very end
that was straight and it looks kinda goofy).  Of course this would be
stainless.  I also could use the resource of my friends shop if they
don't want to deal with a non registered auto whatever......

Let me know off list if anyone is interested.  We would be targeting a
price around $800 but won't know until we ask.   If this fails I may
have to bite the bullet and go factory  doh!!........off to get the
welder to try to get the current exhaust in shape enough to make it to
the UPG meeting in may!!

Ps- the two bad ass "custom" exhaust shops in my area both said the
wouldn't even try to fab a unit for the urq based on all other audi fit
nightmares and failures they had.

David Schaible

JRS Pharma LP
2981 Rte 22
Patterson, NY 12563
845.878.3414

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Fitton [mailto:rfitton at vt.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:09 AM
To: Justin
Cc: urq at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [urq] Stebro Exhaust

I gotta chime in on this.  After breaking my exhaust pretty much in
half, then incurring more damage to it as a result, I've done quite a
bit of research on this.  The only pre-made 3" mandrel bent system I can

find is from 2B for $1400.  I'm really not interested in paying $1400.
So I did a little more looking around.  If one pieces it all together
oneself, I believe one can replace their exhaust, from the bottom of the

downpipe back, for about $800.  This includes a new cat, center
resonator, new rear muffler, and tip.  This is 100% 304 SS, 100% 3", and

100% mandrel bent.  I haven't gone out and taken any measurements yet,
so this price maybe be a bit high or low.  Basically it depends on
exactly how long the exhaust really is and how many bends of varying
severity there are.  Some day soon I'll go out with a tape measure and a

protractor and get some harder numbers.  Anyway, that's the short
version.  If there's demand for the long version, I'll post that as
well.

-Cheers!
Mike

Justin wrote:

> I agree with Martin, the Stebro muffler I have on my 4kq, while it did
> increase the performance, the quality of the welds on the pipes were
> awful!!! The weld between the dual exhaust output pipes broke and had
to
> take it to a muffler shop within a week after I got it!!! If you can
find a
> better SS exhaust brand....go with it...
> Justin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Pajak" <martin at quattro.ca>
> To: <MikeDes156 at aol.com>; <urq at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:31 AM
> Subject: RE: [urq] Stebro Exhaust
>
>
>
>>The only problem I have with "new" Stebro is quality.
>>
>>1) crush bent pipes
>>2) questionable fit etc.
>>
>>The company used to make high quality units back in the late 70s and
early
>>80s.
>>I used to have their old muffler on my Scirocco and it was a work of
art.
>>However the new stuff (probably under new managment) is not up to par,
>>especially considering the price.
>>
>>>From what I hear TAP no longer carries Scorpion and they have stopped
>
> making
>
>>units for Ur-q.
>>
>>Anyone know 100% for sure??
>>
>>What I ended up doing on my car is replacing the rear box with a
genering
>>free flow SS box of same dimensions... it fit great and sounds just as
>>good... being SS I'll probably never have to worry about it again, and
I
>
> get
>
>>to keep the nice stock SS mandrel bent pipes...
>>
>>HTH
>>Martin Pajak
>>
>>http://www.quattro.ca
>>
>>1983 Audi Ur-quattro (305,000 km) Winter Special
>>1985 Audi Ur-quattro (195,000 km) Euro spec. mit 3B ;)
>>1982 Audi Coupe Quattro project
>>1986 Audi 4000 S Quattro (445,000 km) with 5 bolt pattern RIP
>>1982 Audi Coupe Turbo (475,000km) RIP
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com]On
>>Behalf Of MikeDes156 at aol.com
>>Sent: March 24, 2004 8:09 PM
>>To: urq at audifans.com
>>Subject: Re:[urq] Stebro Exhaust
>>
>>
>>When I purchased my 83 a couple of years ago, it had the original
exhaust
>>system. The muffler itself had a hole in the bottom of it so I ordered
>
> only
>
>>the
>>rear muffler from Stebro up in the "Great White North". I had to call
them
>>again after a couple of weeks went by, but after three weeks it
arrived.
>
> It
>
>>fit
>>OK, but I had to get the donuts and new hardware from the dealer (no
big
>>deal,
>>but it would have been nice if it was included, or if they let you
know
>>you'd
>>have to get it yourself). Then a few months later, after a huge New
>
> England
>
>>snow storm, I decided I could drive down a four mile long back road
that
>>wasn't
>>plowed and had a "Road Closed" sign in front of it. "Humph, I have an
>
> Audi,
>
>>who
>>needs roads", I thought. The only problem was when the road connected
to
>
> the
>
>>plowed road, I had to crash through a pile of snow/ice at the end of
it.
>>That's when my center pipe cracked. I ended up ordering that from
Stebro,
>>and
>>again, I had to give them a couple of calls before they finally sent
it. I
>>also
>>added a test pipe in place of the cat. (I'm still testing it.) All in
all
>
> I
>
>>like
>>the Stebro exhaust, but not the service. I thing Blufergnugen stocks
>
> stebro
>
>>too.
>>
>>Mike Desi
>> 83 "Gobi" 900459
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