[urq] Re: [Biturbos4] Acura RL

[Bill Bennett]

That said, people rave about the R32,.... read euro car or euro tuner, no
the raves about the underpowered R32 there, they whine about it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Koenig" <johnkoenig at greennet.net>
To: <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:53 AM
Subject: [urq] Re: [Biturbos4] Acura RL


> Couldn't agree more with your three points.  As for awd alternatives,
we're
> getting into a weird area.  As even non-enthusiasts becomes more aware of
> awd, there are all kinds of names, marketing spin (was it Infiniti with
the
> ad about the disadvantages of awd on dry roads?), and misunderstandings.
>
> My sense is that it's still worth discriminating between real full-time
> systems (a la "ur" quattro) and on-demand systems using electronic
clutches,
> viscous couplings, etc.  Even I'm not up on the details of the Volvo, but
my
> guess is that this difference is the basis of it not feeling as "planted"
as
> a non-Haldex quattro.  I would still argue that there are dynamic
advantages
> to real awd on dry roads that you don't get with an on-demand system.
>
> That said, people rave about the R32, and the Maxda is bound to be
> interesting.  I'm guessing that an S4 fan might not be happy with the
> Subarus or the Mitsu.  As you said, performance AND luxury.
>
> Like they say, my two cents worth!
>
> John
>
> P.S.  Passat 4Motion?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Quincy Chiang <b5quattro at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Biturbos4] Acura RL
>
>
> > Despite it's rather corny sounding name, I read that it's actually quite
a
> clever AWD system.  I think this car should sell quite well, but I won't
be
> knocking on their door anytime soon for the following reasons:
> >
> > 1. No manual, slushbox only
> > 2. too big, I prefer smaller more nimble cars
> > 3. Styling is nice but too generic
> >
> > If you're looking for an alternative to the S4, here're a few...
> >
> > - Audi A3 (perhaps the new S3 will come to North America at last?)
> > - VW Golf R32
> > - Volvo S60R (drove one, very clever suspension, nicely done inside and
> out, but it doesn't feel as fast as out 250hp S4, and the AWD somehow
> doesn't feel as planted as quattro)
> > - Subaru legacy GT
> > - Mazdaspeed 6 (coming out next year, 2.3L turbo AWD)
> > - Subaru STi
> > - Mitsubishi Evo
> >
> > That's about it I think, as you can see, not a whole lot to choose from,
> especially now that you've been spoiled by the performance AND luxury of
our
> S4 ;-)
> >
> > Quincy
>
>
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