[urq] RE: Intercooler

[Jack Walker]

Excellent points Steve, as always! 
My immediate goal is to get the car running with the 944T IC, and dump
the stock IC. I'm not too terribly excited to do the IC across the front
either! I don't want to chop up my car just to track it, but as I always
say, what's stock about the AAN in an UrQ!


Jack Walker
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Eiche [mailto:seiche at shadetreesoftware.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:55 PM
To: Jack Walker
Cc: rletsinger at gmail.com; Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com;
brady at regal-mtl.com; 'urq at audifans.com'
Subject: Re: Intercooler

The 944T IC is a great inexpensive solution, I have one myself that I 
got off ebay dirt cheap five years ago that I had planned to use. While 
it can be made to fit, I wouldn't call it ideal. The endtanks are a bit 
restrictive from the start, and it is common for 944t tuners to modifiy 
the tanks. If you just turn the one tank and modify the other to 
decrease the radius, you still have the restriction issue and fitment 
issue with the plumbing on the output side, which requires you to add 
some tube and curve it to meet the stock pluming . If you are going to 
do that, you might as well make new tanks, and if you do that, why not 
get some cast with the proper mounts and proper routing so you can use 
stock plumbing? Seeing that you have new tanks, why not use a new 
efficient, properly sized core? This was my thought process anyway. 
Considering that cost of the tanks (guess $3k+? for patterns, $50/ tank 
for production), $300 for a new Bell Engineering core, and some profit 
for the guys doing the engineering, welding, etc. on a low production 
part, I don't see $750-$1k as being out of line.

Personally, I have no interest in putting an intercooler in a non-stock 
location for the reasons I gave in the last post. If you want to cut up 
the car, the sky is the limit for an IC.

Steve

Jack Walker wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> On the Intercooler;
>
> I'm already headed towards the 944T Intercooler, bought one for $180 
> (+-), the mods to the end-tanks shouldn't cost more than $100 so it's 
> a pretty cheap intermediate step from the stock UrQ one to the 2B one 
> Rich has. I'm already planning on moving the Alternator and trying to 
> place the AC on the driver side, using something like the 2B Alt-A/C 
> mount.
>
> Rich, the 2B Intercooler you have, is it as shown in the UrQ portion 
> of their site?
>
> I was talking with Ken at 2B and he mentioned they have made a new one

> that is used on Treadway's CQ car that is substantially larger than 
> what they used to make. It also can be made to fit for the UrQ. Go 
> onto their site, go to the 200 link and at the top of the page there 
> is a link to this new intercooler. Now this is definitely going to 
> have to have a cross back or over, or whatever ya call the tube like 
> on the S4/6s You can see it under the IC. As I was talking to Phil 
> Ackley in DC he mentioned that the this IC is a knock off of the RS2, 
> looks like the Turbo inlet is on the driver side on the bottom and the

> PP side is on the passenger side at the top.
>
> Now at $1975 it's pretty costly, and would definitely require 
> something like the SQ front bumper and grille to fit over it, and then

> the SQ hood rather than the 4000 SQ replica to make it look like the 
> thing all works together...Plus some mods to the front to hold the
darn 
> thing. But man that thing is huge!
>
> Is there a possibility that an Intercooler can have the in and out on 
> the same end of the tanks? I don't have a clue?
>
> There is a remote possibility I'd go to a Driver's side IM, if there 
> was I would just go back to my AAN and angle the darn Rad.?
>
> Jack Walker
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